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> Which was a terrible thing to because it harms the community and their own cause as it makes them look like thugs and villains. > And there have indeed been
by majormajor 6y ago
> Which was a terrible thing to because it harms the community and their own cause as it makes them look like thugs and villains.
> And there have indeed been many taking advantage of the situation to steak and cause chaos for chaos' sake.
Violence, as well as hangars-on who are just there for the violence, have been part of anti-state, anti-abuse-of-power protests since time immemorial.
The only people who think it "harms their own cause" are the people looking for excuses not to be critical of the power structures and police instead.
- corrupt_measure 6y agoThat sounds nice to radicals and perhaps functions well as something they tell themselves to excuse violent tendencies, but in reality it just disgusts the vast majority of law abiding people, as is the case with the current protests. Public opinion is quickly turning from sympathy to disgust.
- testbot123 6y agoYou realize that radicals and those protesting are part of the "public", right? That their expression of grievances are part of "public opinion"? As for the people who are disgusted? Nobody cares. They're apologists for state violence, and if after all this time they still don't understand why things are unfolding the way they are, they're only a roadblock to progress.
- dang 6y agoPlease keep ideological battle rhetoric off HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- komali2 6y ago> disgusts the vast majority of law abiding people Speak for yourself. I'm quite happy they burned down a police station. Let DAs and cops around America take note: going forward, if you don't act decisively when a cop murders a black person, you're probably gonna lose a police station. It's just a damn shame the cops forced the people to go this far to get the message across. The police officer standing by that let the murder happen could have prevented it, the cops at the protests could have deescalated instead of firing tear gas into crowds of peaceful protesters. The cops did a GREAT job of descalation when white armed militia turned up at the Capitol two weeks back, they're clearly capable of it. And, the DA could have chosen to have the murderer arrested straight off. Let this then be a lesson.
- leetcrew 6y agoI bet you wouldn't fire tear gas into a crowd of dudes with rifles either. what's the lesson here, exactly?
- dang 6y agoIt looks like this account is using HN primarily for ideological battle. Would you please not do that? It's explicitly against the site guidelines, because it destroys what HN is supposed to be for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Plenty of past explanations: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20primarily%20test&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
- mywittyname 6y agoThis is exactly why agent provacateurs exist.