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That's a bit disingenuous. Everything is encrypted these days, there's virtually nothing that doesn't use TLS. Therefore, when someone says "encrypted", it's a

That's a bit disingenuous. Everything is encrypted these days, there's virtually nothing that doesn't use TLS. Therefore, when someone says "encrypted", it's a good bet they mean E2E.

fullstop 6y ago
Telegram non-E2E is more than just TLS, though.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  What more do they do? I'm not aware.
  - fullstop 6y ago
    It is documented here: https://core.telegram.org/mtproto https://core.telegram.org/mtproto These layers are used in addition to any encryption done on the transport layer.
    - jolux 6y ago
      Fair enough, but they have the keys for that layer, I don’t see how that’s an improvement over TLS.