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Legality aside, culturally Google has a reputation of never having laid off employees. Even when a team gets shuttered the engineers are given months to find a

by klipt 6y ago

Legality aside, culturally Google has a reputation of never having laid off employees. Even when a team gets shuttered the engineers are given months to find a new role on another team. That kind of positive reputation makes recruiting easier.

xhkkffbf 6y ago
They may not have publicly announced layoffs, but I know several who, let's say, overstayed their welcome. They were given months, but no other position appeared. The company was still hiring like crazy, but somehow an internal candidate wasn't acceptable. Go figure. It's a company like any other and now they're acting more like the herd.
- sida 6y ago
  Then that's just a PIP in disguise. The candidate could very well have been a false positive on the initial hire in the first place. And candidate simply got lucky into that team
  - hedora 6y ago
    I know an extremely high performing engineer that was on a successful but completed project (not at Google). His whole team was given a few months to find a new position. Multiple managers tried to get them on their teams, but the transfers all were blocked at a higher level. Eventually, he asked for and got severance pay. Shortly after, during the earnings call, the leadership told the investors they were reducing engineering spend by cutting hiring and consolidating programs, but that all redundant engineers were encouraged to seek another position in the company. Of course, they neglected to mention that such positions didn’t really exist. It was clearly a layoff, except they strung the laid off employees along for a few months. That way, they didn’t have to damage morale or customer/investor confidence by admitting it was a layoff. I’m sure people further removed from the situation would assume it was a PIP, which hurts the engineers’ careers.
    - sida 6y ago
      This is interesting. Then That’s clearly just lay-off.

by klipt 6y ago

xhkkffbf 6y ago

They may not have publicly announced layoffs, but I know several who, let's say, overstayed their welcome. They were given months, but no other position appeared. The company was still hiring like crazy, but somehow an internal candidate wasn't acceptable. Go figure. It's a company like any other and now they're acting more like the herd.

sida 6y ago
Then that's just a PIP in disguise. The candidate could very well have been a false positive on the initial hire in the first place. And candidate simply got lucky into that team
- hedora 6y ago
  I know an extremely high performing engineer that was on a successful but completed project (not at Google). His whole team was given a few months to find a new position. Multiple managers tried to get them on their teams, but the transfers all were blocked at a higher level. Eventually, he asked for and got severance pay. Shortly after, during the earnings call, the leadership told the investors they were reducing engineering spend by cutting hiring and consolidating programs, but that all redundant engineers were encouraged to seek another position in the company. Of course, they neglected to mention that such positions didn’t really exist. It was clearly a layoff, except they strung the laid off employees along for a few months. That way, they didn’t have to damage morale or customer/investor confidence by admitting it was a layoff. I’m sure people further removed from the situation would assume it was a PIP, which hurts the engineers’ careers.
  - sida 6y ago
    This is interesting. Then That’s clearly just lay-off.