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A joke, indeed, seeing as German and other European politicians want the same thing as Trump, for platforms to moderate the users' content.
by jotm 6y ago
A joke, indeed, seeing as German and other European politicians want the same thing as Trump, for platforms to moderate the users' content.
- p1necone 6y agoIsn't Trump upset at Twitter because they were moderating content?
- niklasd 6y agoYes. But he threatens to remove protections of tech companies from liability if users post defamatory messages on their platforms, which can lead to more moderation.
- llcoolv 6y agoWell, at this point they are a publisher not a platform. In my eyes they eagerly & willingly accepted the responsibility themselves.
- luckylion 6y ago... and are much further along in their quest [1], but it's a political matter now, so people can't be bothered to consider facts. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz
- llcoolv 6y agoTrump wants the oppsite actually - platforms not to moderate it. Not that it is any of his business this way or the other.
- krapp 6y agoMore to the point - when the only options for a platform hosting any user provided content are to shut down to avoid liability or not moderate anything, platforms choosing the latter will become overwhelmed with extremist and right-wing speech, pushing the Overton window towards the cultural normalization of alt-right and white supremacist ideology. Which is the actual goal.
- llcoolv 6y agoApologies, but this sounds like it came straight from underneath a tin-foil hat. And to be honest, racism and <insert-color> supermacy are the most primitive & superficial form of collectivism and thus disgusting, but... If the idiots on left are going for affirmative action, which is basically discrimination based on superficial qualities such as gender, race & religion, why the idiots on the right should not be allowed to do the same?
- krapp 6y agoIt may not be the goal of Donald Trump specifically - I think he's just having a bit of a hissy fit TBH. But I absolutely do think it's the goal of many self-described "free speech" advocates on the internet, and Trump's worldview seems to be informed by their zeitgeist, so he's serving their purposes.
- pnako 6y agoIt's pretty obvious that people who have their own speech being suppressed would be advocating for freedom of speech. That's almost tautological, and not a particularly interesting argument.
- krapp 6y agoThey're not advocating for freedom of speech, they're advocating for the tolerance of racist speech under a politically correct banner. Most of them wouldn't bat an eye at the suppression of speech they disagree with, which is evident in how often their attempts at general argument devolve into rants against "the left", SJWs, feminists, etc.
- pnako 6y agoAs I said, it doesn't really matter, if they defend a good argument for the wrong reasons. It's quite possible that some people who want free speech now might be against free speech for others, but that's hardly an argument against having free speech in the first place. It's an interesting thought experiment: under free speech you should be free to advocate for a restriction of free speech.