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> Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts
by midasz 6y ago
> Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!
- blackflame7000 6y agoAnd that's bad because...? We can't succumb to lawlessness if people don't respect the law and expect no penalties. If they did the same thing at Area51 and were shot, would you say it's the fault of the guard who swore to protect their post just as the National Guard does? Is the value of civility not greater than a single life?
- dannyw 6y agoShould people be shot for looting? Is looting a capital crime?
- blackflame7000 6y agoThe reason a prosecutor makes an example of someone is so that they serve as a deterrent to others. It's not because they desire to make an example of everyone. The problem is that you disguise widely complicit violations of societal order by comparing them to single instances of pilfering. Looting doesn't justify deadly force, but a riotous and unlawful mob certainly can.
- dannyw 6y agoI don't follow the logic that a crime against property should become a capital crime just because it is down by a large(unorganised) group of people. Furthermore, the constitution guarantees a fair right to a jury trial, no matter how egregious, and police or the national guard shooting to kill looters goes against that. Should drug smugglers be shot too? They are also going against societal order.
- username90 6y agoA rebellion is different, if you have to deploy the military because people have overpowered the police then it is no longer just a normal crime scene. Normally people would just disperse when that happens, but if they tried to attack the military in the same way they attack the police then what would you expect?
- OldHand2018 6y agoA protest against a citizen who had his life taken without due process of law is getting out of hand. Doing the same on a much larger scale is not going to improve any situation whatsoever. It will be the exact opposite of a deterrent to others.
- yibg 6y agoWouldn't even matter if looting was a capital crime. We're talking summary execution without a trial. Judge dread territory here.
- blackflame7000 6y agoThe 2nd amendment was intended to keep people with a healthy fear of one another. The equation is clear - to take another's property means one must risk something even more valuable; one must risk their life. It's that inequality that preserves order and to try and rebalance the equation by cancelling out the ever-present constants and insist life is above both liberty and prosperity, then you are fundamentally altering the social construct in untenable ways.
- yibg 6y agoSo then why don't we just have the police shoot on sight for any suspected crime? Police get called to store theft, just shoot the suspect. Police get called to vandalism, shoot first.
- roenxi 6y agoThe obvious reasons not to do that is because it is stupid, disproportionate punishment, prone to abuse and irreversible if there is a mistake.
- blackflame7000 6y agoAll that is a risk accepted by the perpetrator. The expectation of being safe from danger while committing a crime is absurd.
- yibg 6y agoAnd this is why trump does what he does. There are actually people that thinks looters should just be shot.