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> when the looting starts, the shooting starts. What part of this isn't?

2019-nCoV 6y ago
It doesn't unequivocally say that at all. It can reasonably be interpreted as: "once people are willing to break the law and start looting, it's not long before there are also people shooting" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
- s5300 6y ago
  Who are you to try to infer alternative ways a direct statement from the POTUS should be parsed. Surely, you're trolling. HN isn't the place for that.
  - kecupochren 6y ago
    IMHO even HN is being astroturfed already...
    - jacquesm 6y ago
      In the general case: yes, absolutely. But in the specific, to make that claim for an individual account requires a high burden of proof. Some people are just stupid or trolls, not necessarily part of an astroturfing operation.
- hoten 6y ago
  > It can reasonably be interpreted as: "once people are willing to break the law and start looting, it's not long before there are also people shooting" That's definitely not it. Walter Headley, Chief of Miami Police during the 1968 Republican National Convention. On the eve of the convention, he gave a press conference where he said this exact phrase. It wasn't an observation that crime begets more crime. It was a threat. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/08/07/how-three-violent-days-gripped-a-black-miami-neighborhood-as-nixon-was-nominated-in-1968/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/08/07...
  - 83hajfjeijg 6y ago
    This. This post is a perfect example of the kind of desperate digging for dog whistles the american left is obsessed with. IT IS NOT WORKING. To someone outside your bubble you look like a crazy person. Even if you're right, that's not a good look. There are more than enough reasons to dislike, disagree with, hate or fear Trump, but for some reason you people are fucking incapable of finding them and instead hang onto these bizarre conspiracies.
- evan_ 6y ago
  > It doesn't unequivocally say that at all. It can reasonably be interpreted as: "once people are willing to break the law and start looting, it's not long before there are also people shooting" This is not a reasonable interpretation of the president's words. The previous tweet said that the military is standing by. There can be no mistake: Trump is saying that he will order the US military to kill Americans.
  - 2019-nCoV 6y ago
    Who invested the power in you to decide what the reasonable interpretation of an ambiguous sentence is? There have already been many shootings across the country in the past few hours.
    - rootlocus 6y ago
      > an ambiguous sentence That's not an ambiguous sentence. The thing about Trump supporters that baffles me is, they have the common sense to understand when some his claims are false or hurtful, because they make up excuses for them: they're ambiguous, he was just checking if we were paying attention, etc. even when he refuses to back down and absolutely denies the excuses. But they still enjoy having their prejudices, fears and hates validated whenever Trump's tweets align with their view.
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2019-nCoV 6y ago

It doesn't unequivocally say that at all. It can reasonably be interpreted as: "once people are willing to break the law and start looting, it's not long before there are also people shooting" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

s5300 6y ago
Who are you to try to infer alternative ways a direct statement from the POTUS should be parsed. Surely, you're trolling. HN isn't the place for that.
- kecupochren 6y ago
  IMHO even HN is being astroturfed already...
  - jacquesm 6y ago
    In the general case: yes, absolutely. But in the specific, to make that claim for an individual account requires a high burden of proof. Some people are just stupid or trolls, not necessarily part of an astroturfing operation.
hoten 6y ago
> It can reasonably be interpreted as: "once people are willing to break the law and start looting, it's not long before there are also people shooting" That's definitely not it. Walter Headley, Chief of Miami Police during the 1968 Republican National Convention. On the eve of the convention, he gave a press conference where he said this exact phrase. It wasn't an observation that crime begets more crime. It was a threat. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/08/07/how-three-violent-days-gripped-a-black-miami-neighborhood-as-nixon-was-nominated-in-1968/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/08/07...
- 83hajfjeijg 6y ago
  This. This post is a perfect example of the kind of desperate digging for dog whistles the american left is obsessed with. IT IS NOT WORKING. To someone outside your bubble you look like a crazy person. Even if you're right, that's not a good look. There are more than enough reasons to dislike, disagree with, hate or fear Trump, but for some reason you people are fucking incapable of finding them and instead hang onto these bizarre conspiracies.
evan_ 6y ago
> It doesn't unequivocally say that at all. It can reasonably be interpreted as: "once people are willing to break the law and start looting, it's not long before there are also people shooting" This is not a reasonable interpretation of the president's words. The previous tweet said that the military is standing by. There can be no mistake: Trump is saying that he will order the US military to kill Americans.
- 2019-nCoV 6y ago
  Who invested the power in you to decide what the reasonable interpretation of an ambiguous sentence is? There have already been many shootings across the country in the past few hours.
  - rootlocus 6y ago
    > an ambiguous sentence That's not an ambiguous sentence. The thing about Trump supporters that baffles me is, they have the common sense to understand when some his claims are false or hurtful, because they make up excuses for them: they're ambiguous, he was just checking if we were paying attention, etc. even when he refuses to back down and absolutely denies the excuses. But they still enjoy having their prejudices, fears and hates validated whenever Trump's tweets align with their view.
- deleted 6y ago
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