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Link to @realDonaldTrump tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266231100780744704 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12662311007807447...
by danso 6y ago
Link to @realDonaldTrump tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266231100780744704 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12662311007807447...
tweet text:
> ....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!
Disclaimer text:
> This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about glorifying violence. However, Twitter has determined that it may be in the public’s interest for the Tweet to remain accessible. Learn more
"Learn more" links to this page about "public-interest exceptions"
https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/public-interest https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/public-intere...
edit: here's the official thread from @TwitterComms about it: https://twitter.com/TwitterComms/status/1266267446979129345 https://twitter.com/TwitterComms/status/1266267446979129345
- noobermin 6y agoWhy is this reply being downvoted? It is merely informative.
- doublesCs 6y ago> Why is this reply being downvoted? It is merely informative. Because this is HN. Expect some guidelines-lawyer to cite some section that was technically breached by that informative reply.
- all2 6y agoIt shows the actual words, which are hard to spin. If we keep what was done vague, we can spin it any way we please.
- koheripbal 6y agoThat's interesting. I interpreted it the exact opposite way. That looking at the words - they don't seem so bad, so the liberal-minded HN users downvoted to keep the details away. Funny how personal bias can twist perceptions.
- augustt 6y agoFunny indeed. Maybe he meant shooting as in shooting footage! What a rascal. Those darn liberals can't expect the president to not be ambiguous about using lethal force every day!
- all2 6y agoI think you and I are thinking the same thing: if the source is available, then the reader can form their own opinion.
- dntbnmpls 6y ago> It is merely informative. That's the problem. When facts/information doesn't align with one's agenda, some people have a terrible habit of trying to have it hidden/banned/removed/etc. You would think in hackernews of all places, we'd upvote the comment to see exactly what trump wrote so that we can decide for ourselves when it was "glorifying violence". Sadly, many here don't want that to happen.
- bilbo0s 6y agoI think because it just restates what's in the link being discussed, when the link is not inaccessible nor behind a paywall. There are a lot of people who think that's bad form on HN. That's my guess. People trying to force everyone to "read the articles" on HN.
- ttonkytonk 6y agoI appreciate someone posting what was actually said because I have limited data.
- _prototype_ 6y agoHN is quickly turning into a leftist SJW and socialist haven, similar to Reddit
- 0-_-0 6y agoFor those who don't like opening Twitter links: https://nitter.net/realDonaldTrump/status-/1266231100780744704 https://nitter.net/realDonaldTrump/status-/12662311007807447...
- _fq4v 6y agoCompletely agree with trump here honestly. Looting private business is not a form of protest against the police or the state for that matter.
- xigency 6y agoYou should investigate the racial history of the phrase “when the looting starts, the shooting starts” and also consider whether property crime deserves loss of life.
- tathougies 6y ago> property crime deserves loss of life. This is not an isolated incidence of property crime. This is utter destruction more akin to waging a total war against a particular district of Minneapolis. It's a form of terrorism. Property -- in the form of business and services -- is essential to life. There is no absolute distinction between the two, despite what some pretend. These people are breaking property in their own community and then expect investors or the very government they're protesting to step back in and rebuild.
- xigency 6y ago> Property -- in the form of business and services -- is essential to life. While that can be true in a literal sense at times, I don't believe shop lifting electronics from Target would have that effect. Even the destruction of local businesses, while indeed terrorizing, is not lethal. Violent rioting would be something that might require a lethal response, but stealing, looting, robbing, plundering -- no. > These people are breaking property in their own community and then expect investors or the very government they're protesting to step back in and rebuild. So you believe that what is right, instead of investing and rebuilding, is that these people should be killed?
- tathougies 6y ago> Even the destruction of local businesses, while indeed terrorizing, is not lethal. Tell that to the poor immigrant family whose business, and thus livelihood in this country, was destroyed. This is how we get roof koreans. Why don't these rioters go stand with guns outside the state capitol or city hall or police dept? Instead of disrespecting the memory of George Floyd. I hope his death isn't used to defend people's 'right' to steal TVs without getting caught. That would be really really really sad. You don't have the moral high ground here. Terrorizing and instilling fear in your local community is wrong, whether it comes from the state through the police or your fellow countrymen through riots. Just as an appropriate response to the officer who killed Mr Floyd would have been violence, so is violence towards the rioters. We can't honestly say that just because the police are thugs, thus we ought to also let others be thugs. Both can be wrong.