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Really? You believe doctor and nurses should be slaves? That they must meet the demand for unlimited health care and if there aren't enough of them we should fo

Really? You believe doctor and nurses should be slaves? That they must meet the demand for unlimited health care and if there aren't enough of them we should force people to be come them? There's a limited amount of health care to give because there is a limited amount of people willing to provide it. There is no concept of "right to health care" that doesn't require slavery. You can argue for universal health care but arguing that people have "a right to health care" makes no sense.

callalex 6y ago
How is it slavery? By that logic literally every government worker is a slave.
- gfxgirl 6y ago
  It's pretty simple. Imagine there is 1 doctor. Doctor doesn't want to treat patient (could be sick, could be tired) but patient "has a right to health care". The only way to honor that right is to force the doctor to treat them. I'm not sure how "every government worker is a slave" fits. The things most government workers do have nothing to do with "rights". As an example there is no "right to protection" even though we have police. There are rights that prevent the police from doing bad things but there is no right that forces police to help anyone.
Loulybob 6y ago
Surely by the same logic OP believes dentists should be slaves???
dTal 6y ago
I don't know of any universal healthcare system in the world that uses slavery. What you do is have the government pay the salaries of the health workers, just like they do for every other public social service workers like police, fire, military, beat attorney etc. What makes health care so different to any of these?
- QuercusMax 6y ago
  And how about we actually pay for the schooling for doctors and nurses, so people want to go to medical school without incurring crippling debt?
- gfxgirl 6y ago
  I never said universal heathcare uses slavery. In fact I specifically said it doesn't What said was claiming people "have a right to healthcare" requires slavery. Universal Health Care != "right to healthcare"

callalex 6y ago

How is it slavery? By that logic literally every government worker is a slave.

gfxgirl 6y ago
It's pretty simple. Imagine there is 1 doctor. Doctor doesn't want to treat patient (could be sick, could be tired) but patient "has a right to health care". The only way to honor that right is to force the doctor to treat them. I'm not sure how "every government worker is a slave" fits. The things most government workers do have nothing to do with "rights". As an example there is no "right to protection" even though we have police. There are rights that prevent the police from doing bad things but there is no right that forces police to help anyone.

Loulybob 6y ago

Surely by the same logic OP believes dentists should be slaves???

dTal 6y ago

I don't know of any universal healthcare system in the world that uses slavery. What you do is have the government pay the salaries of the health workers, just like they do for every other public social service workers like police, fire, military, beat attorney etc. What makes health care so different to any of these?

QuercusMax 6y ago
And how about we actually pay for the schooling for doctors and nurses, so people want to go to medical school without incurring crippling debt?
gfxgirl 6y ago
I never said universal heathcare uses slavery. In fact I specifically said it doesn't What said was claiming people "have a right to healthcare" requires slavery. Universal Health Care != "right to healthcare"