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Why is that saddening? I'm glad to see that American hip hop is as popular as it is in those countries. Makes me even happier when it's an African American hip

Why is that saddening? I'm glad to see that American hip hop is as popular as it is in those countries. Makes me even happier when it's an African American hip hop artist.

IMTDb 6y ago
It's sad because we would expect/hope that the diversity of human cultures would be lead to very different songs being popular in different parts of the world. It's also sad because the three most common word of the song in question ( Dababy - Rockstar ) are: "Yeah" (21 occurences), "Woo" (15 occurences) and "nigga" (13 occurences). The next one in line are "cop", "pull" and "glock" (6 each). This is probably not the culture the US hopes to export.
- tonywastaken 6y ago
  Just because at the moment there is an American song leading the charts doesn't mean that is always the case. You look at those lyrics on their own and they are just words that don't may not make sense. But if you look at the song as a whole, it's an artist's expression. And it seems to resonate with a lot of people around the world. Criticizing the song contradicts your value for "diversity of human cultures".
  - IMTDb 6y ago
    Nevertheless, my answer explains why some people find a bit sad that today, people in most countries all seem to resonate with the exact same artistic expression. And that this expression which resonates with so many people involve lyrics like : "My daughter a G, she saw me kill a nigga in front of her before the age of two" Which to me don't really sound so happy. So if that is really what moves most of the world today, yeah I am a bit sad.
    - yakshaving_jgt 6y ago
      It doesn’t move the rest of the world. Most people don’t have taste. People listen to music like that for the same reason people watch The Big Bang Theory: because everyone else does.
    - glomph 6y ago
      Things don't have to be happy to be moving.
    - joe5150 6y ago
      if you are that uncomfortable with depictions of violence in song, you will need to reckon with the entire long history of popular music, because it has been a subject in demand since long before now.
    - rsynnott 6y ago
      This was a major hit in 1980, in basically all anglophone countries. You maybe... don't want to listen too closely to the lyrics. To be honest I'm kind of surprised radio stations are still willing to play it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Stand_So_Close_to_Me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Stand_So_Close_to_Me Makes the lyric you quote seem fairly innocent, really.
  - every_time_6m 6y ago
    Imagine actually defending this. In your previous comment you were very clear how, specifically, hip hop by blacks warms your heart. Now that the content of this 'music' has been laid bare you need to talk around it and distance yourself from those claims. Why not denounce it? It's not art, it's filth. It's degenerate propaganda. If any White man dares tell me that having that crap in our nations is 'culturally enriching', well, I'd get banned here for even saying what I want to do to him. It is disgraceful. I hope you're not White. Regardless, but especially if so, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
cambalache 6y ago
Why?
Bayart 6y ago
Just the steamroller of American mass-market pop culture crushing any diversity where it can find a footing. It's the cultural equivalent of a species making it into a new biome and wiping every species with the same niche. Americans find it flattering and even positive (because how couldn't be positive it the rest of the world becomes more like yourself ?) but it's really quite dramatic.
- yellowapple 6y ago
  I mean, I guess it's cool that a large swath of the world seems to like listening to my country's music, but I was really hoping for something distinctly Australian or Irish or English or Icelandic or South African or what have you, and yet in all those cases it was the exact same song. I do wonder if expanding the site to show, say, the top 5 instead of just the absolute top song would be a better indicator; as it stands, it feels like Rammstein was right: "We're all living in Amerika".
  - rsynnott 6y ago
    The anglophone charts are pretty global; if the chart-topper is American this week in the US it will probably be the same in other anglophone countries. If it's English, ditto (including in the US).

Why is that saddening? I'm glad to see that American hip hop is as popular as it is in those countries. Makes me even happier when it's an African American hip hop artist.

IMTDb 6y ago

It's sad because we would expect/hope that the diversity of human cultures would be lead to very different songs being popular in different parts of the world. It's also sad because the three most common word of the song in question ( Dababy - Rockstar ) are: "Yeah" (21 occurences), "Woo" (15 occurences) and "nigga" (13 occurences). The next one in line are "cop", "pull" and "glock" (6 each). This is probably not the culture the US hopes to export.

tonywastaken 6y ago
Just because at the moment there is an American song leading the charts doesn't mean that is always the case. You look at those lyrics on their own and they are just words that don't may not make sense. But if you look at the song as a whole, it's an artist's expression. And it seems to resonate with a lot of people around the world. Criticizing the song contradicts your value for "diversity of human cultures".
- IMTDb 6y ago
  Nevertheless, my answer explains why some people find a bit sad that today, people in most countries all seem to resonate with the exact same artistic expression. And that this expression which resonates with so many people involve lyrics like : "My daughter a G, she saw me kill a nigga in front of her before the age of two" Which to me don't really sound so happy. So if that is really what moves most of the world today, yeah I am a bit sad.
  - yakshaving_jgt 6y ago
    It doesn’t move the rest of the world. Most people don’t have taste. People listen to music like that for the same reason people watch The Big Bang Theory: because everyone else does.
  - glomph 6y ago
    Things don't have to be happy to be moving.
  - joe5150 6y ago
    if you are that uncomfortable with depictions of violence in song, you will need to reckon with the entire long history of popular music, because it has been a subject in demand since long before now.
  - rsynnott 6y ago
    This was a major hit in 1980, in basically all anglophone countries. You maybe... don't want to listen too closely to the lyrics. To be honest I'm kind of surprised radio stations are still willing to play it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Stand_So_Close_to_Me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Stand_So_Close_to_Me Makes the lyric you quote seem fairly innocent, really.
- every_time_6m 6y ago
  Imagine actually defending this. In your previous comment you were very clear how, specifically, hip hop by blacks warms your heart. Now that the content of this 'music' has been laid bare you need to talk around it and distance yourself from those claims. Why not denounce it? It's not art, it's filth. It's degenerate propaganda. If any White man dares tell me that having that crap in our nations is 'culturally enriching', well, I'd get banned here for even saying what I want to do to him. It is disgraceful. I hope you're not White. Regardless, but especially if so, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

cambalache 6y ago

Why?

Bayart 6y ago

Just the steamroller of American mass-market pop culture crushing any diversity where it can find a footing. It's the cultural equivalent of a species making it into a new biome and wiping every species with the same niche. Americans find it flattering and even positive (because how couldn't be positive it the rest of the world becomes more like yourself ?) but it's really quite dramatic.

yellowapple 6y ago
I mean, I guess it's cool that a large swath of the world seems to like listening to my country's music, but I was really hoping for something distinctly Australian or Irish or English or Icelandic or South African or what have you, and yet in all those cases it was the exact same song. I do wonder if expanding the site to show, say, the top 5 instead of just the absolute top song would be a better indicator; as it stands, it feels like Rammstein was right: "We're all living in Amerika".
- rsynnott 6y ago
  The anglophone charts are pretty global; if the chart-topper is American this week in the US it will probably be the same in other anglophone countries. If it's English, ditto (including in the US).