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>* Rising youth unemployment Before COVID? >* Little hope of owning property This realistically only applies in a few hot cities in the US and to low income

>* Rising youth unemployment Before COVID? >* Little hope of owning property This realistically only applies in a few hot cities in the US and to low income groups. The middle class still can easily achieve home ownership in most of the US. >* Rapidly increasing inequality This is just a political talking point. It has no realistic impact on the day-to-day life of the bulk of the population. Whether Jeff Bezos has 1 billion or 1 trillion doesn't really matter to someone making 90k living in Chicago. >* Healthcare system where serious sickness can lead to financial ruin Again, this doesn't apply to a huge portion of the US population because they have health insurance. Remember that the reason that healthcare is so hard to change in the US is because it works for the majority of the population.

Gibbon1 6y ago
> Again, this doesn't apply to a huge portion of the US population because they have health insurance. Let me guess you've never had to use yours for anything major.
- pathseeker 6y ago
  I have. Procedure totaling about $90k. HDHP covered everything after the first $4k. HSA that company contributes to covered the first $4k. My expense = $0. Instead of talking about anecdotes or making lame personal accusations, just look at the data: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2690297/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2690297/
  - Gibbon1 6y ago
    > Instead of talking about anecdotes or making lame personal accusations You are then fully aware that you are covered by a gold plated healthcare plan and your experience is utterly atypical. HN guideline prohibit me from saying what I think about people like you.
    - pathseeker 6y ago
      >You are then fully aware that you are covered by a gold plated healthcare My healthcare plan is not gold plated. It's trivial to find a HDCP on the open healthcare exchange with the same $4k deductible. The only atypical thing was that my employer covered the $4k HSA deposit, but paying that $4k does not lead to financial ruin for the vast majority of the middle class. >and your experience is utterly atypical. Did you even read the survey I sent you? I think your view has been heavily tainted by political arguments about healthcare, which focus on the minority it doesn't work for. Again, the reason healthcare is so hard to change in the US is because it works for the majority of the population. >HN guideline prohibit me from saying what I think about people like you. Consider why you are so emotionally charged about the topic and take a step back. Is there something that deeply upsets you about healthcare not being a failure for more than half of the population?

Gibbon1 6y ago

> Again, this doesn't apply to a huge portion of the US population because they have health insurance. Let me guess you've never had to use yours for anything major.

pathseeker 6y ago
I have. Procedure totaling about $90k. HDHP covered everything after the first $4k. HSA that company contributes to covered the first $4k. My expense = $0. Instead of talking about anecdotes or making lame personal accusations, just look at the data: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2690297/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2690297/
- Gibbon1 6y ago
  > Instead of talking about anecdotes or making lame personal accusations You are then fully aware that you are covered by a gold plated healthcare plan and your experience is utterly atypical. HN guideline prohibit me from saying what I think about people like you.
  - pathseeker 6y ago
    >You are then fully aware that you are covered by a gold plated healthcare My healthcare plan is not gold plated. It's trivial to find a HDCP on the open healthcare exchange with the same $4k deductible. The only atypical thing was that my employer covered the $4k HSA deposit, but paying that $4k does not lead to financial ruin for the vast majority of the middle class. >and your experience is utterly atypical. Did you even read the survey I sent you? I think your view has been heavily tainted by political arguments about healthcare, which focus on the minority it doesn't work for. Again, the reason healthcare is so hard to change in the US is because it works for the majority of the population. >HN guideline prohibit me from saying what I think about people like you. Consider why you are so emotionally charged about the topic and take a step back. Is there something that deeply upsets you about healthcare not being a failure for more than half of the population?