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does anyone know a simple app that allows hyperlinking within notes? I want to create a roam-style knowledge base, but most tools are too heavy for my purposes.
by M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y ago
does anyone know a simple app that allows hyperlinking within notes? I want to create a roam-style knowledge base, but most tools are too heavy for my purposes. I prefer to keep things cross-compatible and future proof with .txt or .rtf, but to my knowledge, neither allow hyperlinking to documents
- cmehdy 6y agoYesterday there was a Show HN about Obsidian[0] which you might be interested in. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23324598 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23324598
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y agoyou need an account for it though, right? meaning they have access to your stuff. and because they use unique formatting such as `![[filename]]`, it may not be easily cross-compatible
- nighthawk454 6y agoI believe in yesterdays thread there was mention of the app storing all files locally in a portable Markdown format
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y agoHave you heard anything about Joplin? I believe it behaves similarly.
- Hates_ 6y agoNo account needed. It just works off local markdown files.
- cgriswald 6y agoNo account needed. They don't have access to your stuff—it works on local files—but appear to be working on a cloud option. They claim to support Commonmark and Github Flavored Markdown. [[filename]] is just a shortcut for [filename](filename), but in any case "Export to standard Markdown links" is on their short-term roadmap. You might also check out Zim.
- dunefox 6y agoNot that great since it lacks Latex support.
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y agoI just wanted simple hyperlinking.
- Enginerrrd 6y agoDepends what you mean by "heavy", and what platform you're looking for. Vimwiki maybe?
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y agoI can keep things on local storage and preferably in `.txt` or `.rtf`
- cryptonode 6y agoTake a look at https://www.notion.so https://www.notion.so
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y agonotion is a proprietary format, unfortunately. I also want to keep things in local storage for security reasons
- codemac 6y agoorg-mode allows linking within notes.
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y agostill a bit too heavy for my purposes, but it looks like it may be the only option. I was trying not to resort to `.md` files, but that may be a more future-roof option to be honest.
- ImprobableTruth 6y agoif you do decide to check out emacs, look at org-roam. My experience with it has been amazing so far.
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y agohow is it compared to org-zettelkasten or vim-org?
- _alex_ 6y agoorg is as future proof as anything else
- gexla 6y agoWhy not Roam?
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y agoRoam is closed-beta and a proprietary format.
- gexla 6y agoI get that. But I'm also skeptical of any product / service which attempts to bolt on Roam-like features. Note taking apps have been around for a long time, and now all of a sudden it's a hot new thing to add bio-directional links? The developers talked about starting out not knowing what they would end up with but that they would know when they saw it. That process took them two years (?) of exploration and development to get to what they have now. That's worth tipping them at least a few months subscription for anyone looking for a note taking app with Roam features. Throw these guys a bone for getting us past the stagnation. Also, anything Roam-like is still going to be half-assed. If they aren't furthering the thread, then they're just copying. If they're just copying, then they don't have the understanding of the problem that the Roam developers have. If I feel Roam brought value to the world, then I should follow those developers who delivered rather than the copy cats. Granted, Roam didn't create the idea of of linking notes. They didn't create the idea of the bullet blocks. They did create the interface which made it all work on a screen though.
- ImprobableTruth 6y agoHell, even if they had straight up invented backlinks I wouldn't be willing to deal with an application that costs $15 per month and gives me absolutely no control over my data. The possibility that an outage could cause me to lose work alone prevents me from ever giving it a shot. And the idea that even though the copycats deliver to me the superior product, I should still give what amounts to charity to Roam because they designed a nice interface just strikes me as absurd. I don't see the point in being overly concerned about supporting new research since we already have a mechanism for that: patents. If Roam truly believes their work is revolutionary, they should have just applied for a patent.
- jpitz 6y agoTiddlyWiki https://tiddlywiki.com/ https://tiddlywiki.com/
- diggan 6y agoFair bit of warning: TiddlyWiki is the opposite of heavy, which means it's a bit shallow on the surface by allow custom data types/pages. I love this, makes you basically be able to build your own content systems on top of TiddlyWiki, but people expecting it's just "notes you can link together" might have to readjust their expectations. Another great thing about TiddlyWiki is that the content can be stored in barebones files that you can read/parse outside of TiddlyWiki, and you can also run the frontend client offline with just a single index.html, if you want to. So fits what M5x7wI3CmbEem10 pretty nicely. So thumbs up for TiddlyWiki but it can be a bit... Tiddly to fickle with sometimes.
- flarg 6y agozim desktop wiki
- marvinblum 6y agoHm that's hard to accomplish with simple text files. You can checkout Emvi [1]. That's not exactly what you're looking for but you can link everything using the @ key and export to HTML and markdown. [1] https://emvi.com/ https://emvi.com/
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y agoit's unfortunate that just being able to link documents is difficult within text files
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- simantel 6y agohttps://notebag.app/ https://notebag.app/
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- rukuu001 6y agoHate to be that guy but... org-mode :) I use it as an outliner, to link to documents (using org-roam), and liberally sprinkle TODOs among the notes, which the agenda picks up. Took a while to get comfortable with it, but it's totally worth it.
- M5x7wI3CmbEem10 6y agoI'm concerned because the emacs community is significantly smaller than the vi community. Do you happen to know anything about vim-org?
- jxy 6y agoUse acme from plan9port. Every file is automatically a link.
- Takch 6y agojDownloader vielleicht ....
- mrshu 6y agoIf you do not mind a bit of setup, I have found Vim in combination with VimWiki (https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki) a very good fit for this scenario. It supports markdown formatting, does hyperlinks pretty well (even jumping back and forth is quite nice), is as cross-compatible as Vim and stores the notes in future-proof .md files. I suggest you give it a shot.