I'll say to you what I end up saying to everyone who has this view, read the The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness. I can guarantee

I'll say to you what I end up saying to everyone who has this view, read the The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness. I can guarantee that if you read that book and look at the data, you'll change your mind. Believe me, it'll cover every single talking point you probably have.