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Twitter isn't a public right. He chooses to use their platform so they choose to annotate his lies. I don't see how this executive order would even change exact

Twitter isn't a public right. He chooses to use their platform so they choose to annotate his lies. I don't see how this executive order would even change exactly what started the whole thing.

onetimemanytime 6y ago
IIRC, they are not liable if they just host the comments, not if they endorse them. I guess every comment without a "fake /dubious" label is true? (Cause I'm about to drink a gallon of bleach and eat 2 lbs of raw garlic to ward off Covid as per a tweet's instruction ;) (joking) )
- ddoolin 6y ago
  Even if they were the publisher in this scenario and were liable for his comment AND their annotation, there is nothing illegal about it.
  - elpool2 6y ago
    Twitter could put "Everything trump says is false!" underneath every Trump tweet and it would still be perfectly legal.
  - jklein11 6y ago
    I don't think the executive action targets the fact check label on Trump's tweet specifically. I think Twitter did something that really pissed Trump off and Trump is using Section 230 as leverage and a way to extend the narrative of "Twitter is plotting against me so don't believe everything you read." This is neither here nor there but I have considered my self a republican for the last 28 years of my life. This president's actions make me feel physically ill.
friedman23 6y ago
People have a right to communicate, if a few platforms have the power to block all communication maybe they should be.
- ddoolin 6y ago
  So, some kind of socialized national communication place?
- evan_ 6y ago
  How does adding a link prevent anyone, let alone the most powerful person in history, from communicating?
- komali2 6y ago
  > People have a right to communicate, if a few platforms have the power to block all communication maybe they should be. Hm.... I don't see how Twitter is preventing anyone from the right to communicate, nor do I sense that Twitter has the power, even if it worked with the next 3 largest social media platforms, to "block all communications." Last I checked, the internet would still exist if Twitter, Facebook, and Linkedin shut down.
HPsquared 6y ago
Either they're a public utility or they have control (and thus should have some degree of liability) for what is transmitted/published on their platform. They can't eat their cake and have it too!
- Barrin92 6y ago
  Platforms have removed harmful content, for example terrorist propaganda or child pornography with 230 protections intact and governments appeared to welcome it so I think you can actually have your cake and eat it too, or at least you could until you fact checked Republicans I suppose Platforms both enjoy first amendment protection to moderate their platforms as they see fit as well as protection from liability under 230. They are not mutually exclusive, and platforms have been moderating their content for decades. In fact most online communities could not even function if they had no right to moderate. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/no-section-230-does-not-require-platforms-be-neutral https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/no-section-230-does-no...
  - IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago
    Nice job moving goalposts. Terrorism and child porn are criminal activities. Expressing an opinion , no matter how unsavory, is not Therefore systematically editioralizing of the latter constitutes control which means you own all content on your site ... Including the aforementioned criminal content
- ddoolin 6y ago
  They _are_ liable for many things published on their platform. And they are also allowed to moderate content in whatever way they want. I don't see a problem as you are free to go start your own platform and presumably it would be popular if this many people have a problem with the existing censorship. This honestly seems to be the model that Republicans have been pining for all along, they just don't like that they or their supporters are falling victim to its design.
- IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago
  Predictably you are being downvoted. Yet no one dares to answer this straightforward question. Is twitter a public utility, or are they an editor? They are behaving like an editor. Therefore they should lose their public utility S230 exception. Its as simple as that
spiderfarmer 6y ago
Classic Trump. He does nothing, claims he’s victorious and his fans eat it up.

Twitter isn't a public right. He chooses to use their platform so they choose to annotate his lies. I don't see how this executive order would even change exactly what started the whole thing.

onetimemanytime 6y ago

IIRC, they are not liable if they just host the comments, not if they endorse them. I guess every comment without a "fake /dubious" label is true? (Cause I'm about to drink a gallon of bleach and eat 2 lbs of raw garlic to ward off Covid as per a tweet's instruction ;) (joking) )

ddoolin 6y ago
Even if they were the publisher in this scenario and were liable for his comment AND their annotation, there is nothing illegal about it.
- elpool2 6y ago
  Twitter could put "Everything trump says is false!" underneath every Trump tweet and it would still be perfectly legal.
- jklein11 6y ago
  I don't think the executive action targets the fact check label on Trump's tweet specifically. I think Twitter did something that really pissed Trump off and Trump is using Section 230 as leverage and a way to extend the narrative of "Twitter is plotting against me so don't believe everything you read." This is neither here nor there but I have considered my self a republican for the last 28 years of my life. This president's actions make me feel physically ill.

friedman23 6y ago

People have a right to communicate, if a few platforms have the power to block all communication maybe they should be.

ddoolin 6y ago
So, some kind of socialized national communication place?
evan_ 6y ago
How does adding a link prevent anyone, let alone the most powerful person in history, from communicating?
komali2 6y ago
> People have a right to communicate, if a few platforms have the power to block all communication maybe they should be. Hm.... I don't see how Twitter is preventing anyone from the right to communicate, nor do I sense that Twitter has the power, even if it worked with the next 3 largest social media platforms, to "block all communications." Last I checked, the internet would still exist if Twitter, Facebook, and Linkedin shut down.

HPsquared 6y ago

Either they're a public utility or they have control (and thus should have some degree of liability) for what is transmitted/published on their platform. They can't eat their cake and have it too!

Barrin92 6y ago
Platforms have removed harmful content, for example terrorist propaganda or child pornography with 230 protections intact and governments appeared to welcome it so I think you can actually have your cake and eat it too, or at least you could until you fact checked Republicans I suppose Platforms both enjoy first amendment protection to moderate their platforms as they see fit as well as protection from liability under 230. They are not mutually exclusive, and platforms have been moderating their content for decades. In fact most online communities could not even function if they had no right to moderate. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/no-section-230-does-not-require-platforms-be-neutral https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/no-section-230-does-no...
- IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago
  Nice job moving goalposts. Terrorism and child porn are criminal activities. Expressing an opinion , no matter how unsavory, is not Therefore systematically editioralizing of the latter constitutes control which means you own all content on your site ... Including the aforementioned criminal content
ddoolin 6y ago
They _are_ liable for many things published on their platform. And they are also allowed to moderate content in whatever way they want. I don't see a problem as you are free to go start your own platform and presumably it would be popular if this many people have a problem with the existing censorship. This honestly seems to be the model that Republicans have been pining for all along, they just don't like that they or their supporters are falling victim to its design.
IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago
Predictably you are being downvoted. Yet no one dares to answer this straightforward question. Is twitter a public utility, or are they an editor? They are behaving like an editor. Therefore they should lose their public utility S230 exception. Its as simple as that

spiderfarmer 6y ago

Classic Trump. He does nothing, claims he’s victorious and his fans eat it up.