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He's expressed interest in the past about fixing this; he's not sure how to handle it yet: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3A

by kick 6y ago

He's expressed interest in the past about fixing this; he's not sure how to handle it yet: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20karma%20shar&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... That said, two things: You should send a message to hn@ycombinator.com if you have something to say to moderation. They're very responsive, and you'll get a better response rate than posting in random HN threads that might not even be seen. It also breaks the Guidelines: Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something. Send it to hn@ycombinator.com. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html You also shouldn't take this personally. The poster likely didn't see your post, very likely wasn't 'gaming' anything (they actually have some really interesting articles in their submission history that don't seem to have been posted before, and they're a journalist; it was likely they just read it and posted it), and it wouldn't be practical to 'ban reposts': HN already has a feature that upvotes a previous submission if you post within a given range from it. I know it's not a great feeling to post something that you think is interesting and to see it get to the front page later via someone else (I can point to a bunch of my own posts where this happened), but it getting to the front page at all is something positive. It's not a race, so incentivizing quick-draw on articles from popular outlets (like zdnet, which has millions of readers) above all else probably wouldn't be useful, either.

aspenmayer 6y ago
I don’t care to do that. It’s a problem with basic functionality. There is site behavior which disallows reposts, but only sometimes. The sometimes part is the bug, from my point of view. I honestly don’t care enough to do anything but say it shouldn’t happen when it happens to me, as long as it happens to me. Bug reports should be public for non-security related bugs. This is a bug. This thread is my report. I can be reached on this thread. Edit: I have emailed and asked that replies are in-thread or linked to in this thread. I hope we can get some clarity into whether this is a "won't fix" situation or more of a subjective call on a per-case basis, or something else entirely. I don't want to make waves, just trying to surf.
- dang 6y ago
  Take a look at the past explanations at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20reposts%20good&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... and if you still have a question I haven't answered there, let me know what it is. Examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22042481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22042481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21457217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21457217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20206120 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20206120 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18156460 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18156460 https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=by:dang%20reposts%20mitigate https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=by:dang%20reposts%20cracks https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
  - aspenmayer 6y ago
    I do have one unanswered question: Why did this particular repost get posted instead of upvoting my post?
    - dang 6y ago
      Because your post fell below the bar for 'significant attention' as explained in the comments I linked to.
      - aspenmayer 6y ago
        Maybe if I had gotten some of the karma from the repost it would have cleared the bar. This argument is circular, and I know you have to make a judgment call, but this feels like the wrong way to go about a fair, transparent system. Perhaps that is not a goal of HN, but from my few interactions with you on this site, I think you probably care a whole lot more about HN than I do, and I care too! Thanks for all you do. Edit: Why not do it like a lottery with more than one winning ticket sold? Share the karma pool among the OP and the reposters. Just an idea. Or, let the reposter keep the karma, but put a byline saying something like 'first posted by user123 on jan 2, 1969' with a link? I care far more about attribution than karma. I care about making good posts, but if someone else gets the credit, why would I bother? If no one will see it, the intrinsic value to me is something I already had. To share is to be seen. If a tree falls in the forest with no one around to hear it and all that.

by kick 6y ago

aspenmayer 6y ago

I don’t care to do that. It’s a problem with basic functionality. There is site behavior which disallows reposts, but only sometimes. The sometimes part is the bug, from my point of view. I honestly don’t care enough to do anything but say it shouldn’t happen when it happens to me, as long as it happens to me. Bug reports should be public for non-security related bugs. This is a bug. This thread is my report. I can be reached on this thread. Edit: I have emailed and asked that replies are in-thread or linked to in this thread. I hope we can get some clarity into whether this is a "won't fix" situation or more of a subjective call on a per-case basis, or something else entirely. I don't want to make waves, just trying to surf.

dang 6y ago
Take a look at the past explanations at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20reposts%20good&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... and if you still have a question I haven't answered there, let me know what it is. Examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22042481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22042481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21457217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21457217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20206120 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20206120 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18156460 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18156460 https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=by:dang%20reposts%20mitigate https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=by:dang%20reposts%20cracks https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  I do have one unanswered question: Why did this particular repost get posted instead of upvoting my post?
  - dang 6y ago
    Because your post fell below the bar for 'significant attention' as explained in the comments I linked to.
    - aspenmayer 6y ago
      Maybe if I had gotten some of the karma from the repost it would have cleared the bar. This argument is circular, and I know you have to make a judgment call, but this feels like the wrong way to go about a fair, transparent system. Perhaps that is not a goal of HN, but from my few interactions with you on this site, I think you probably care a whole lot more about HN than I do, and I care too! Thanks for all you do. Edit: Why not do it like a lottery with more than one winning ticket sold? Share the karma pool among the OP and the reposters. Just an idea. Or, let the reposter keep the karma, but put a byline saying something like 'first posted by user123 on jan 2, 1969' with a link? I care far more about attribution than karma. I care about making good posts, but if someone else gets the credit, why would I bother? If no one will see it, the intrinsic value to me is something I already had. To share is to be seen. If a tree falls in the forest with no one around to hear it and all that.