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I think Bob is a very insightful person and has great intuition and probably more experience than any of us. Sure he has certain bias towards certain things; wh

I think Bob is a very insightful person and has great intuition and probably more experience than any of us. Sure he has certain bias towards certain things; who doesn't really? Saying that his posts are harmful is a bit of a stretch.

charlieflowers 6y ago
Even smart, highly qualified people (which Bob is) are prone to cognitive bias. One such bias is, the more you have espoused something, the more fervently you believe in it, and the harder it is for you to acknowledge any shortcomings of it. So I agree with the parent ... his writings are in many cases harmful. They're a mix of good and bad, but often net harmful.
nojito 6y ago
How much experience can someone have who hasn’t coded professionally in probably 15 years? Look at how much growth happened in the last 15 years.
Silhouette 6y ago
I think Bob is a very insightful person and has great intuition and probably more experience than any of us. Why on earth would you think that? Saying that his posts are harmful is a bit of a stretch. Mentor your first few people who keep defending rookie mistakes with "But Uncle Bob said..." and you might change your mind about that. Bob Martin says some sensible things, but he also says some things that are at best debatable and at worst outright contradicted by the evidence base, and he says all of them with great conviction and presumed authority so that his target audience can't tell the difference. That alone makes him dangerous as a source of advice.
wglb 6y ago
> more experience than any of us. I have been developing for 54 years. I have been through all manner of design philosophies, from Structured Programming, to Object Oriented Programming, to Agile, to TDD along with hack-it-till-it-works. If you don't do the engineering, which he does not teach, you are going to struggle. I believe this is a harmful post.

charlieflowers 6y ago

Even smart, highly qualified people (which Bob is) are prone to cognitive bias. One such bias is, the more you have espoused something, the more fervently you believe in it, and the harder it is for you to acknowledge any shortcomings of it. So I agree with the parent ... his writings are in many cases harmful. They're a mix of good and bad, but often net harmful.

nojito 6y ago

How much experience can someone have who hasn’t coded professionally in probably 15 years? Look at how much growth happened in the last 15 years.

Silhouette 6y ago

I think Bob is a very insightful person and has great intuition and probably more experience than any of us. Why on earth would you think that? Saying that his posts are harmful is a bit of a stretch. Mentor your first few people who keep defending rookie mistakes with "But Uncle Bob said..." and you might change your mind about that. Bob Martin says some sensible things, but he also says some things that are at best debatable and at worst outright contradicted by the evidence base, and he says all of them with great conviction and presumed authority so that his target audience can't tell the difference. That alone makes him dangerous as a source of advice.

wglb 6y ago

> more experience than any of us. I have been developing for 54 years. I have been through all manner of design philosophies, from Structured Programming, to Object Oriented Programming, to Agile, to TDD along with hack-it-till-it-works. If you don't do the engineering, which he does not teach, you are going to struggle. I believe this is a harmful post.