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I understand your frustration, but also consider, being promoted over your colleagues poses its own risks to the social fabric of a company. Your last paragraph
by lr4444lr 6y ago
I understand your frustration, but also consider, being promoted over your colleagues poses its own risks to the social fabric of a company. Your last paragraph alludes to this kind of rancor.
Bringing in people from the outside (or leaving to go somewhere else yourself when you're ready to make the jump,) has its benefits for what it avoids.
- khazhoux 6y agoInternal discontentment follows from promotions being so difficult, and it's worsened by everyone seeing new people walking in at a higher level than seems justified. Then, having to deal with the new person once they land and it quickly becomes obvious (in 99% of cases) that they are not more accomplished and don't deliver more results than the internal people they leapfrogged. My first job two decades ago didn't have engineering levels (apart from Tech Lead designation, which wasn't a formal level). People still fought for raises and the salaries/bonuses were sometimes not perfect, but there was no "promotion" per se and in retrospect it was healthier for everyone.
- m-ee 6y agoThat sounds healthier for the org internally but I don’t think I’d ever take the job because of the risk of stunting my career growth. Harder to move up the ladder at my next job if I don’t have a decent title at my current one.
- khazhoux 6y agoIn fact, the company I'm referring to did eventually adopt SWE job levels (right as I was leaving) and I was told it was because engineers were being recruited away by companies offering a "Senior Engineer" title.