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You're still not answering the question. Do you think Iran and China have a responsibility for the part they played in moving us towards war? >So the world pop
by macspoofing 6y ago
You're still not answering the question. Do you think Iran and China have a responsibility for the part they played in moving us towards war?
>So the world populace thinks US is moving towards war; moreso than China or Russia.
Not surprised. There is so much negativity around anything to do with America because America is what defines the current world order. The subtext is that if not for America we would be living in global utopia with no war and nations cooperating diplomatically to solve common goals - a state of things that has NEVER been true in all of human history. The only times of peace humanity have ever enjoyed were within the borders of some empire.
>You do have a point here, but are you trying to tell me Iran is THE threat to that will pull this world into the abyss?
No. Not into the abyss. Iran is a fascist nation that is a regional nuisance. They could join the community of nations if they abandoned their regional ambitions and stop funding terrorist groups. But their actions are leading to a war, either with America or Saudi Arabia.
Just to be clear, I'm not claiming America doesn't have a part in the state of things (America is run by humans, and humans make mistakes), I just don't see any evidence that Iran is an innocent party in this. They played their part and made their bed through the actions of their government over decades. They began existence by breaking global norms by storming the American embassy and taking diplomats hostage, and have been a terrible regional presence.
- nix23 6y ago>Iran is a fascist nation that is a regional nuisance. Absolutely the same could be said about Saudi Arabia. Yes storming the USA embassy was wrong, but so was Flying two Airplanes into towers (i think you know very well ho founded Al-Qaida), and the whole Yemen-War is nothing, right? I did not even started with the hole Nuclear-Contract that the US broke up, just to bring Iran (again) in a unbearable position. It's funny, when the US makes mistakes then it's just 'run by humans, and humans make mistakes', but when Iran does it, then it's 'began existence by breaking global norms'
- A4ET8a8uTh0 6y agoBelieve it or not, I think we are a lot closer to an agreement than it seems. I would not ever dream of claiming that Iran is innocent in how things are. That said, I would like to point out that, they did not begin their existence by breaking global norms by storming American embassy. Their history is a little longer than that. Their history with US is longer than that too. We can pursue this conversation once we agree on that simple truth.