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Interesting, first I heard that NY copied Italy. I thought it was winter HVAC and overzealous ventilator use, but yeah, that would do it. SF didn't really do a

Interesting, first I heard that NY copied Italy. I thought it was winter HVAC and overzealous ventilator use, but yeah, that would do it. SF didn't really do anything, including testing, until very late, so we never needed more patient space, ironically. (We actually gave away 500 ventilators early on.) I believe that's due to many Bay Area residents shuttling between SF and China, essentially starting a very early herd immunity in Dec. The Santa Clara dashboard makes corona look like a seasonal flu - there's numbers, but nothing of concern yet. It was reported that at the end of NAMM on Jan. 24, planeloads of Chinese travellers disembarked at LAX, all wearing masks, so they knew what was up. (That was also the day Disney closed their Shanghai property due to corona.) https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/24/shanghai-disney-shuts-to-prevent-spread-of-virus.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/24/shanghai-disney-shuts-to-pre... You would think closing a Disney theme park would catch the attention of the CDC or somebody in our government, yet here we are.

Consultant32452 6y ago
Don't believe the hype. The CDC and government were taking steps all through January. Hindsight is always 20/20, so one might suggest certain things could've been done earlier, but it's not as if coronavirus was being ignored. Jan 3: CDC Director Redfield formally requests permission to send experts to China to investigate the new virus Jan 5: CDC Director Redfield repeats formal request Jan 6: CDC issued level 1 travel notice for Wuhan Jan 7: CDC established coronavirus incident management system Jan 11: CDC updated a Level 1 health notice for Wuhan Jan 17: CDC began public health entry screening at 3 US airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan Jan 20: Fauci announces NIH is working on vaccine Jan 21: CDC activates emergency operations center to provide support for coronavirus response Jan 23: CDC sought "special emergency authorization" from the FDA to allow states to use newly developed coronavirus test Jan 27: Trump tweeted he made an offer to Xi Jinping to send experts to China Jan 27: CDC issues level 3 travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China Jan 27: White House Coronavirus Task Force had its first meeting. Jan 31: Trump declared coronavirus a public health emergency, announced Chinese travel restrictions ... the actions just get more aggressive from here
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  Thanks for the info. If those dates are correct for the first week of Jan., then the CDC was actually very aggressive for a govt. agency, since Wuhan was still trying to cover it up that week. (See link below.) We need to think about why it took 4 weeks for US action, and what a major trading economy like the US can do. But ... note that December is missing from the timeline: The first known Wuhan hospitalization was Dec. 1, and since I travel a lot in Asia, I learned of a highly contagious, deadly flu there on Dec. 15. 1) So it took over a month for the CDC to find out, despite US funding of the Wuhan corona laboratory (the epicenter.) 2) When talking with mainland Chinese people, they say Chinese social media had active topics about flu in Nov. and Dec. Something to search for in Chinese. 3) I looked at the CDC web site recently for how to report an outbreak, and there is no direct way for a citizen to do so. They require you to report it via an allowed channel. Again, something to think about. "What did China know, and when?" https://thehill.com/opinion/international/490258-what-did-chinas-xi-jinping-know-and-when-did-he-know-it https://thehill.com/opinion/international/490258-what-did-ch...

Consultant32452 6y ago

Don't believe the hype. The CDC and government were taking steps all through January. Hindsight is always 20/20, so one might suggest certain things could've been done earlier, but it's not as if coronavirus was being ignored. Jan 3: CDC Director Redfield formally requests permission to send experts to China to investigate the new virus Jan 5: CDC Director Redfield repeats formal request Jan 6: CDC issued level 1 travel notice for Wuhan Jan 7: CDC established coronavirus incident management system Jan 11: CDC updated a Level 1 health notice for Wuhan Jan 17: CDC began public health entry screening at 3 US airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan Jan 20: Fauci announces NIH is working on vaccine Jan 21: CDC activates emergency operations center to provide support for coronavirus response Jan 23: CDC sought "special emergency authorization" from the FDA to allow states to use newly developed coronavirus test Jan 27: Trump tweeted he made an offer to Xi Jinping to send experts to China Jan 27: CDC issues level 3 travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China Jan 27: White House Coronavirus Task Force had its first meeting. Jan 31: Trump declared coronavirus a public health emergency, announced Chinese travel restrictions ... the actions just get more aggressive from here

redis_mlc 6y ago
Thanks for the info. If those dates are correct for the first week of Jan., then the CDC was actually very aggressive for a govt. agency, since Wuhan was still trying to cover it up that week. (See link below.) We need to think about why it took 4 weeks for US action, and what a major trading economy like the US can do. But ... note that December is missing from the timeline: The first known Wuhan hospitalization was Dec. 1, and since I travel a lot in Asia, I learned of a highly contagious, deadly flu there on Dec. 15. 1) So it took over a month for the CDC to find out, despite US funding of the Wuhan corona laboratory (the epicenter.) 2) When talking with mainland Chinese people, they say Chinese social media had active topics about flu in Nov. and Dec. Something to search for in Chinese. 3) I looked at the CDC web site recently for how to report an outbreak, and there is no direct way for a citizen to do so. They require you to report it via an allowed channel. Again, something to think about. "What did China know, and when?" https://thehill.com/opinion/international/490258-what-did-chinas-xi-jinping-know-and-when-did-he-know-it https://thehill.com/opinion/international/490258-what-did-ch...