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I guess I have not seen any factual basis to conclude that mail-in voting is problematic. I get the theoretical argument, and can imagine all sorts of USPS cons

by Fezzik 6y ago

I guess I have not seen any factual basis to conclude that mail-in voting is problematic. I get the theoretical argument, and can imagine all sorts of USPS conspiracies to rig the vote, but the fact is we have multiple states that allow mail-in voting, where millions of voters have cast ballots by mail, and both parties have won and lost elections while watching and recounting numerous votes... and there is no indication that this process has been problematic, ever. And certainly no evidence that it is not at least as secure as the voting machines we have, while still facilitating more people voting.

AnthonyMouse 6y ago
> and there is no indication that this process has been problematic, ever. It's a thing that actually happens: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/cudahy-officials-corruption-bribery-ballots-voting/2104906/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/cudahy-officials-co... https://www.dothaneagle.com/news/crime_court/woman-convicted-in-dothan-election-fraud-case-serving-out-jail/article_cea1b784-68bc-11e6-90a9-4be3f12af91b.html https://www.dothaneagle.com/news/crime_court/woman-convicted... https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/cahokia-village-trustees-sentenced-for-election-fraud/article_f2ee2ec4-0c9c-11e0-be47-00127992bc8b.html https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/cahokia-village-tr... There are also even more small time cases like this: https://gvwire.com/2019/08/23/mexican-man-who-supports-trump-convicted-of-voter-fraud/ https://gvwire.com/2019/08/23/mexican-man-who-supports-trump... Where it's only one person voting when they're not eligible. Those cases often aren't even prosecuted, but at scale it adds up.
- Fezzik 6y ago
  All those articles are about absentee ballots which absolutely nobody in DC is trying to stop entirely. It is how deployed military persons vote. Trump and the republicans are trying to stop States from implementing state-wide voting, or expanding absentee ballots for all citizens which more states are trying to implement due to a friggin’ pandemic. And yes, every system will have people that try to mess with it. But as Oregon’s nearly 2 decades of state-wide-vote-by-mail demonstrates, voting by mail is no more problematic than any other method of voting and it is more convenient for voters. Edit: clarity while trying to maintain brevity.

by Fezzik 6y ago

AnthonyMouse 6y ago

> and there is no indication that this process has been problematic, ever. It's a thing that actually happens: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/cudahy-officials-corruption-bribery-ballots-voting/2104906/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/cudahy-officials-co... https://www.dothaneagle.com/news/crime_court/woman-convicted-in-dothan-election-fraud-case-serving-out-jail/article_cea1b784-68bc-11e6-90a9-4be3f12af91b.html https://www.dothaneagle.com/news/crime_court/woman-convicted... https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/cahokia-village-trustees-sentenced-for-election-fraud/article_f2ee2ec4-0c9c-11e0-be47-00127992bc8b.html https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/cahokia-village-tr... There are also even more small time cases like this: https://gvwire.com/2019/08/23/mexican-man-who-supports-trump-convicted-of-voter-fraud/ https://gvwire.com/2019/08/23/mexican-man-who-supports-trump... Where it's only one person voting when they're not eligible. Those cases often aren't even prosecuted, but at scale it adds up.

Fezzik 6y ago
All those articles are about absentee ballots which absolutely nobody in DC is trying to stop entirely. It is how deployed military persons vote. Trump and the republicans are trying to stop States from implementing state-wide voting, or expanding absentee ballots for all citizens which more states are trying to implement due to a friggin’ pandemic. And yes, every system will have people that try to mess with it. But as Oregon’s nearly 2 decades of state-wide-vote-by-mail demonstrates, voting by mail is no more problematic than any other method of voting and it is more convenient for voters. Edit: clarity while trying to maintain brevity.