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Well, just off the top of my head: * The PRC government right now * Pretty much any government behind the iron curtain during the cold war * The Catholic chu

Well, just off the top of my head: * The PRC government right now * Pretty much any government behind the iron curtain during the cold war * The Catholic church over much of its history ... I mean, come on. Pick any reasonably competent totalitarian regime and you'll find that one of core pillars of the support structure is precisely "control over public discourse". So maybe in context putting a fact check link under a tweet doesn't sound so bad?

banads 6y ago
Try again, your only example that comes close to the scale and number of users of FB (2.6B MAU), is PRC (1.4B citizens), and that does not exactly help your case that FB is too powerful.
- root_axis 6y ago
  MAUs are not a measurement of control over an individual. For the vast majority of Facebook users, Facebook is a very small slice of their life composing only a few minutes of activity per use. If someone opens up the Facebook app for 5 minutes a month they are considered a MAU. Suggesting that browsing an app for a few minutes out of a day is comparable to authoritarian control over 1.4 billion people demonstrates a complete lack of perspective in reality.
  - banads 6y ago
    What measurement would you suggest we use to approximate the number of people whose communication is under the control of a particular organization? >If someone opens up the Facebook app for 5 minutes a month they are considered a MAU. Suggesting that browsing an app for a few minutes out of a day is comparable to authoritarian control over 1.4 billion people demonstrates a complete lack of perspective in reality. Your strawman is what lacks perspective of reality. The average FB user spends 30-60 minutes on Facebook each day, depending on the source.
    - root_axis 6y ago
      > What measurement would you suggest we use to approximate the number of people whose communication is under the control of a particular organization You'd first have to a establish a definition for the term "control". > The average FB user spends 30-60 minutes on Facebook each day Voluntarily interacting with an app for 45 minutes a day does not in any concevibile interpretation meet the definition of "control". The user is literally in complete control of the apps they interact with on their phone or computer.
      - banads 6y ago
        >You'd first have to a establish a definition for the term "control" Let me google that for you: >control: the power to influence or direct people's behavior or the course of events.

banads 6y ago

Try again, your only example that comes close to the scale and number of users of FB (2.6B MAU), is PRC (1.4B citizens), and that does not exactly help your case that FB is too powerful.

root_axis 6y ago
MAUs are not a measurement of control over an individual. For the vast majority of Facebook users, Facebook is a very small slice of their life composing only a few minutes of activity per use. If someone opens up the Facebook app for 5 minutes a month they are considered a MAU. Suggesting that browsing an app for a few minutes out of a day is comparable to authoritarian control over 1.4 billion people demonstrates a complete lack of perspective in reality.
- banads 6y ago
  What measurement would you suggest we use to approximate the number of people whose communication is under the control of a particular organization? >If someone opens up the Facebook app for 5 minutes a month they are considered a MAU. Suggesting that browsing an app for a few minutes out of a day is comparable to authoritarian control over 1.4 billion people demonstrates a complete lack of perspective in reality. Your strawman is what lacks perspective of reality. The average FB user spends 30-60 minutes on Facebook each day, depending on the source.
  - root_axis 6y ago
    > What measurement would you suggest we use to approximate the number of people whose communication is under the control of a particular organization You'd first have to a establish a definition for the term "control". > The average FB user spends 30-60 minutes on Facebook each day Voluntarily interacting with an app for 45 minutes a day does not in any concevibile interpretation meet the definition of "control". The user is literally in complete control of the apps they interact with on their phone or computer.
    - banads 6y ago
      >You'd first have to a establish a definition for the term "control" Let me google that for you: >control: the power to influence or direct people's behavior or the course of events.