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That is an awesome connection and very grateful for it (http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html) However it's also wa
by artsyca 6y ago
That is an awesome connection and very grateful for it (http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html)
However it's also way off the mark because it doesn't treat the professional dress from a technologist standpoint but rather a socio-cultural one and doesn't go into the history of the shirt and tie (notice I didn't say suit and tie) as a communication medium
There's enough information here for a whole volume but whatever it's worth humans require signals to communicate and in the absence of something definite they'll use anything at hand
The traditional professional dress deals with social communication concerns we're no longer even aware of let alone leveraging to advantage and it's a pity to watch a whole generation of would-be professionals on a level the world has never seen in its billion year history lose the thread as it were and bring their shabby hand me downs to the arena when they could stand on the side of tradition and button up like their ancestors in the arts and sciences did for centuries before them
- mixmastamyk 6y ago> a pity... side of tradition Not sure what to make of this really. You're not wrong, there is something to the subject of course. Still, I can't help feeling like it's a perspective from a different planet. Different folks are into different things, and that's fine. But hoping that the majority will get serious about a niche subject/behavior is usually a recipe for disappointment. Personally, I like to dress on the nice side of casual (vaguely similar to Steve Jobs, sans turtleneck) and wouldn't be caught dead in impractical clothing outside of a wedding.
- artsyca 6y agoBro it's the constant struggle between the individual and the group there's nothing new here Anyone can examine the evidence and agree as to the evidence but disagree as to what the evidence entails I look at the modern state of corporacy and the rise of working from home and I see we ought to go back to traditional principles whereas the majority view it as an incentive to dress even further down I'm not sure about you but I don't feel good about siding with the hoi polloi on principle and for that reason alone I'd rather wear a shirt with a collar than a dainty T Edit: by the way do you believe that every person you see in a shirt and tie is suffering in an impractical outfit?
- mixmastamyk 6y agoYes. I go to DC occasionally on business and the standard dress there is ridiculous for the swampy climate. It doesn't work most of the year in Southern California either, too hot. The thing that enables it is climate-killing air conditioning. I don't care for anything tight around my neck. Shoes with no traction are another one of my pet peeves. I think something like the traditional Asian suits would be the most practical.
- mixmastamyk 6y agoAsian --> Nehru, Kurta, Mandarin, etc
- artsyca 6y agoThere's something you haven't thought through all the way I can guarantee it