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How does this reconcile with the laws of many euro countries compelling website forums to delete content that they deem objectionable? Most recently France pas

How does this reconcile with the laws of many euro countries compelling website forums to delete content that they deem objectionable? Most recently France passed such a law[0]. > There are multiple levels of fines. It starts at hundreds of thousand of euros but it can reach up to 4% of the global annual revenue of the company with severe cases. How can these euro countries claim to be free societies when they restrict the most basic element of personal freedom? It's not just France. Several of the euro countries have laws like this. [0]: https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/14/france-passes-law-forcing-online-platforms-to-delete-hate-speech-content-within-24-hours/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/14/france-passes-law-forcing-...

themacguffinman 6y ago
Why does it need to reconcile? EU governments are allowed to make stupid or bad policies. That doesn't contradict the basic fact that Twitter is not at all like a government, even when it is forced by actual governments to remove content.
- VWWHFSfQ 6y ago
  I'm referring to this statement: > stop acting like what gets posted or removed from twitter is anything other than a bullshit triviality Should we not care about something that gets removed from Twitter because the French or German or Chinese government didn't want it there?
  - themacguffinman 6y ago
    Whether or not you care about Twitter content removal is subjective, but the answer of whether you should care more if Twitter or the government removed the content is pretty clear: you should care more about the government every time. Latching onto "should we care" is kind of pedantic and misses the point. The most Twitter can do is tell you to find somewhere else to publish your speech. The most the French / German / Chinese government can do is destroy your entire life and the lives of everyone who publishes or consumes your speech. So when a government leader starts talking about suppressing critical speech, that's a lot more worrisome than Twitter deleting tweets. The abuse of power is hardly comparable. You might even say that in comparison, it's a bullshit triviality.
root_axis 6y ago
> How does this reconcile with the laws of many euro countries compelling website forums to delete content that they deem objectionable? There's nothing to reconcile. A social media website is not at all like a government, I don't see what the laws in Europe have to do with that.
- VWWHFSfQ 6y ago
  I'm referring to this statement: > stop acting like what gets posted or removed from twitter is anything other than a bullshit triviality Should we not care about something that gets removed from Twitter because the French or German or Chinese government didn't want it there?
rmtech 6y ago
Those laws are democratically accountable though, so it's not the same thing as what I am talking about.

themacguffinman 6y ago

Why does it need to reconcile? EU governments are allowed to make stupid or bad policies. That doesn't contradict the basic fact that Twitter is not at all like a government, even when it is forced by actual governments to remove content.

VWWHFSfQ 6y ago
I'm referring to this statement: > stop acting like what gets posted or removed from twitter is anything other than a bullshit triviality Should we not care about something that gets removed from Twitter because the French or German or Chinese government didn't want it there?
- themacguffinman 6y ago
  Whether or not you care about Twitter content removal is subjective, but the answer of whether you should care more if Twitter or the government removed the content is pretty clear: you should care more about the government every time. Latching onto "should we care" is kind of pedantic and misses the point. The most Twitter can do is tell you to find somewhere else to publish your speech. The most the French / German / Chinese government can do is destroy your entire life and the lives of everyone who publishes or consumes your speech. So when a government leader starts talking about suppressing critical speech, that's a lot more worrisome than Twitter deleting tweets. The abuse of power is hardly comparable. You might even say that in comparison, it's a bullshit triviality.

root_axis 6y ago

> How does this reconcile with the laws of many euro countries compelling website forums to delete content that they deem objectionable? There's nothing to reconcile. A social media website is not at all like a government, I don't see what the laws in Europe have to do with that.

VWWHFSfQ 6y ago
I'm referring to this statement: > stop acting like what gets posted or removed from twitter is anything other than a bullshit triviality Should we not care about something that gets removed from Twitter because the French or German or Chinese government didn't want it there?

rmtech 6y ago

Those laws are democratically accountable though, so it's not the same thing as what I am talking about.