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If you compare flying vs. car driving upon the live-time spent with this activities, then 2h flying is much more dangerous than 2 hour car driving. Usually this
by holri 16y ago
If you compare flying vs. car driving upon the live-time spent with this activities, then 2h flying is much more dangerous than 2 hour car driving.
Usually this is compared by distinance, but this is wrong. For example last year I spent my holiday nearby driving by car, this year maybe I am going to fly to a distant place utilizing the same transport time. The flying holiday is far more dangerous than the driving one. I do never decide between car and plane for a given goal, therefore the risk relation to the distance is wrong.
- jhamburger 16y agoI don't think I agree with your logic here. It seems like you're saying that traveling to far away places is more dangerous than close places, regardless of how you get there. I don't see how that makes flying more dangerous.
- holri 16y agoAn example: A bus driver job is far more secure than a pilot job. When comparing activities we should relate spent livetime not distances to risk.
- jhamburger 16y agoWell just about everyone other than Pilots spends a lot more of their life driving than flying, which is still irrelevant to which is the safer mode of transportation. When you boil it down, you're still saying "Going somewhere is more dangerous than not going somewhere."
- holri 16y agono I am saying that "2 hours flying is more dangerous than 2 hours driving." For the estimate of the risks in my live I am asking what is the safer mode of living. Therefore the risk of an activity hast to be related to spent livetime.
- sorbus 16y agoSo, "traveling longer distances is more dangerous than traveling shorter distances."
- pessimizer 16y agoIf you ignore that he's talking about cars or planes, and his point.
- g_lined 16y agoI see what you're saying and it's an important point to remember, but rather than one way be wrong, I think it depends on the question. "I need to get from New York to L.A. Which is the safest way to do it?" is about comparing two travel methods (or three if you want to think about trains) for the same distance. The time based answer is suited to your vacation quandary where you have a week off and you wonder whether to drive somewhere or fly someplace else.
- holri 16y agoCorrect. But I never ask the question if I go by car or plane from New York to L.A because it would take too long by car. This simply not a practical relevant comparison. The question what to do or not do in my livetime is the relevant one. And for the answer to this question the risk of a activity has to be related to livetime.
- jhamburger 16y agoOK I'll play along- I also can't fly to work everyday because there's no airport nearby and I would be broke within weeks. Therefore, driving is more dangerous because I'm forced to spend more time doing it.
- gmarceau 16y agoNope. Even when you count per hours, planes remains vastly safer than car -- more than 4 times safer. Deaths per billion hours Bus: 11.1 Rail: 30 Air: 30.8 Water: 50 Van: 60 Car: 130 Foot: 220 Bicycle: 550 Motorcycle: 4840 Deaths per billion kilometres Air: 0.05 Bus: 0.4 Rail: 0.6 Van: 1.2 Water: 2.6 Car: 3.1 Bicycle: 44.6 Foot: 54.2 Motorcycle: 108.9 Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_safety#Accidents_and_incidents http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_safety#Accidents_and_incide...
- holri 16y agoThis of course depends on the sources. Mine are the official Austrian statistics. With your sources bus is still more than 2 times safer per hour.