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> This is no different than being in an actual grocery store. On a phone, you've only got a couple inches to view at a time. It's TOTALLY different. If all you

> This is no different than being in an actual grocery store. On a phone, you've only got a couple inches to view at a time. It's TOTALLY different. If all you do as a designer is take things in store and literally transcribe them to a phone, it won't work. It's a terrible way to design. And I still don't understand difference between featured and store pick btw.

kube-system 6y ago
Is there supposed to be a difference in meaning? Or was the difference in the text just intended to make your brain pause to consider whether there was actually a difference in meaning? Every moment you think about it is one more moment that the marketers have your attention. "Design" is very subjective. Whether it is "good" or not all depends on the goals of whatever it was designed for. Take a physical IKEA store for instance. If you want to make it quick and easy to shop, it's a horrible design. If you want to keep someone in the store for a long time, it is very good.
- elicash 6y ago
  Per the article, a ton of people find online grocery shopping confusing and this is driving away a TON of potential business. This is bad design.
TeMPOraL 6y ago
> On a phone, you've only got a couple inches to view at a time. Even more reason to ensure the more expensive items are viewed first. > And I still don't understand difference between featured and store pick btw. Cynic it me would say: there might be no difference, and this may be just intended to confuse people who would otherwise just ignore "store pick".
- wanderr 6y ago
  > Even more reason to ensure the more expensive items are viewed first. Not if you want your customers to have a not-miserable enough experience that they will actually buy from you, and continue buying from you in the future.
  - TeMPOraL 6y ago
    Marketers rarely care about you having a not-miserable experience. In fact, the key insight behind many of the common dark patterns is that you can inflict a lot of annoyance on your customers before they start to bounce, and meanwhile at each step a fraction of those customers will fall prey to the sales technique and spend more money than they should. (Consider: if your choice is between ordering on-line and going to the store in the middle of a pandemic, and you're leaning towards ordering on-line, will you really give up and go to the store just because someone sorted a bunch of overpriced products to the top of the list in your app?)
    - emiliobumachar 6y ago
      Maybe people do not bounce just because of the bad sorting, but it adds up. The article is all about people bouncing from online shopping, and we're replying to someone who chose bad sorting to point out.

kube-system 6y ago

Is there supposed to be a difference in meaning? Or was the difference in the text just intended to make your brain pause to consider whether there was actually a difference in meaning? Every moment you think about it is one more moment that the marketers have your attention. "Design" is very subjective. Whether it is "good" or not all depends on the goals of whatever it was designed for. Take a physical IKEA store for instance. If you want to make it quick and easy to shop, it's a horrible design. If you want to keep someone in the store for a long time, it is very good.

elicash 6y ago
Per the article, a ton of people find online grocery shopping confusing and this is driving away a TON of potential business. This is bad design.

TeMPOraL 6y ago

> On a phone, you've only got a couple inches to view at a time. Even more reason to ensure the more expensive items are viewed first. > And I still don't understand difference between featured and store pick btw. Cynic it me would say: there might be no difference, and this may be just intended to confuse people who would otherwise just ignore "store pick".

wanderr 6y ago
> Even more reason to ensure the more expensive items are viewed first. Not if you want your customers to have a not-miserable enough experience that they will actually buy from you, and continue buying from you in the future.
- TeMPOraL 6y ago
  Marketers rarely care about you having a not-miserable experience. In fact, the key insight behind many of the common dark patterns is that you can inflict a lot of annoyance on your customers before they start to bounce, and meanwhile at each step a fraction of those customers will fall prey to the sales technique and spend more money than they should. (Consider: if your choice is between ordering on-line and going to the store in the middle of a pandemic, and you're leaning towards ordering on-line, will you really give up and go to the store just because someone sorted a bunch of overpriced products to the top of the list in your app?)
  - emiliobumachar 6y ago
    Maybe people do not bounce just because of the bad sorting, but it adds up. The article is all about people bouncing from online shopping, and we're replying to someone who chose bad sorting to point out.