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As someone that just spent over 10K on a botched marble floor job. This just pissed me off more at my installer. The guy didn't level the floor. Told me he had

As someone that just spent over 10K on a botched marble floor job. This just pissed me off more at my installer. The guy didn't level the floor. Told me he had 10 years of experience laying tiles. He had 1 by 2 foot tiles, took over a month to lay down 1000 sqft. Not even mosaic. I feel drunk walking on the floor, since it goes up and down so much.

nkoren 6y ago
Check out the floor of the Pantheon, in Rome. THAT IS THE ORIGINAL FLOOR. People have been walking on it for 2,000 years and it's still gorgeous. The sheer competency of these guys was unbelievable.
- jungletime 6y ago
  I was there in person when I was a kid. Amazing place.
- dboreham 6y ago
  The roof being original is a bit more impressive imho.
  - abrowne 6y ago
    The world's largest unreinforced concrete dome, and almost 1900 years old.
  - nkoren 6y ago
    Oh, of course the roof is amazing, one of the crowning achievements of human ingenuity, IMHO. But for some reason the floor impresses me at least as much. If you're a Roman working on that roof, you know you're doing something totally unprecedented in human history. So you pull out all the stops with an utterly heroic feat of engineering and construction. That's very impressive, but when it comes to the floor -- well, plenty of buildings have floors, nothing groundbreaking about that. So, y'know, just call the flooring contractors and have them install something nice. The fact that something relatively ordinary is still performing so well, a couple thousand years later, is what blows my mind. Today, I'm sure that a gathering of the world's greatest engineers would be capable of designing a dome that would last for millennia. But I doubt there's any flooring contractor on earth who would give even a hundred-year guarantee on their work.
- Infernal 6y ago
  So I wanted to check out a picture to see what you were talking about - incredible to imagine building something that last so long looking so nice, really: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Einblick_Panorama_Pantheon_Rom.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Einblick... But the woman and man in the lower right of the picture are weirding me out. It seems there are two men almost identical walking one in front of the other, next to two women who also look almost identical walking one in front of the other - but the woman's clothing has changed colors. I'm assuming it is some panorama software weirdness as I see other strange artifacts, but changing the colors to give the impression of different people following each other is... interesting.
  - robbintt 6y ago
    Wait until you notice half of her torso in the dead center of the photo.
    - Infernal 6y ago
      Hah, yes I saw that but that makes more sense to me as a panoramic artifact. The duplicated woman with different colors seems like a (possibly ML-driven?) attempt to make a more “realistic” looking photo.
  - therealcamino 6y ago
    That's so weird. I thought it was just a family walking together at first, but then the details are so similar that you get a creeping feeling of unease. I would bet that the colors were changed manually so it was less obvious that the same people appeared in the photo twice. If you look just slightly to the right of center, it looks like a partial image of the same woman appears again, weirdly cut off and out of scale (just her left shoulder and arm).
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sjg007 6y ago
Did you withhold final payment? For future reference, if you are in a mechanics lien state you can also just not pay until the job is done and satisfactory. Although it can be hard to find someone during a construction boom who will work for that. But it is typically used when you have major remodels or new home construction (basically anything financed by a bank loan). Otherwise you should sue in small claims court.

nkoren 6y ago

Check out the floor of the Pantheon, in Rome. THAT IS THE ORIGINAL FLOOR. People have been walking on it for 2,000 years and it's still gorgeous. The sheer competency of these guys was unbelievable.

jungletime 6y ago
I was there in person when I was a kid. Amazing place.
dboreham 6y ago
The roof being original is a bit more impressive imho.
- abrowne 6y ago
  The world's largest unreinforced concrete dome, and almost 1900 years old.
- nkoren 6y ago
  Oh, of course the roof is amazing, one of the crowning achievements of human ingenuity, IMHO. But for some reason the floor impresses me at least as much. If you're a Roman working on that roof, you know you're doing something totally unprecedented in human history. So you pull out all the stops with an utterly heroic feat of engineering and construction. That's very impressive, but when it comes to the floor -- well, plenty of buildings have floors, nothing groundbreaking about that. So, y'know, just call the flooring contractors and have them install something nice. The fact that something relatively ordinary is still performing so well, a couple thousand years later, is what blows my mind. Today, I'm sure that a gathering of the world's greatest engineers would be capable of designing a dome that would last for millennia. But I doubt there's any flooring contractor on earth who would give even a hundred-year guarantee on their work.
Infernal 6y ago
So I wanted to check out a picture to see what you were talking about - incredible to imagine building something that last so long looking so nice, really: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Einblick_Panorama_Pantheon_Rom.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Einblick... But the woman and man in the lower right of the picture are weirding me out. It seems there are two men almost identical walking one in front of the other, next to two women who also look almost identical walking one in front of the other - but the woman's clothing has changed colors. I'm assuming it is some panorama software weirdness as I see other strange artifacts, but changing the colors to give the impression of different people following each other is... interesting.
- robbintt 6y ago
  Wait until you notice half of her torso in the dead center of the photo.
  - Infernal 6y ago
    Hah, yes I saw that but that makes more sense to me as a panoramic artifact. The duplicated woman with different colors seems like a (possibly ML-driven?) attempt to make a more “realistic” looking photo.
- therealcamino 6y ago
  That's so weird. I thought it was just a family walking together at first, but then the details are so similar that you get a creeping feeling of unease. I would bet that the colors were changed manually so it was less obvious that the same people appeared in the photo twice. If you look just slightly to the right of center, it looks like a partial image of the same woman appears again, weirdly cut off and out of scale (just her left shoulder and arm).

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sjg007 6y ago

Did you withhold final payment? For future reference, if you are in a mechanics lien state you can also just not pay until the job is done and satisfactory. Although it can be hard to find someone during a construction boom who will work for that. But it is typically used when you have major remodels or new home construction (basically anything financed by a bank loan). Otherwise you should sue in small claims court.