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> Rust is now an official UWP / WinUI binding, part of Project Reunion, core Windows platform That's good to know! It appears Microsoft can be both bad and goo

> Rust is now an official UWP / WinUI binding, part of Project Reunion, core Windows platform That's good to know! It appears Microsoft can be both bad and good. > Office will eventually make use of it. I have to see it before I believe it. Office team is not "developers who make third party Windows apps so Microsoft indirectly profit from them" There was a time when MS embraced Java, we've never seen it in Office though.

pjmlp 6y ago
Microsoft is now a OpenJDK contributor has bought jClarity, Java has had several talks at Build and has parity with .NET on Azure SDKs, Office doesn't dictate all business lines. And I bet you weren't reverse engineering Office to discover which ActiveX were implemented in J++ instead of VB 6.
- chinesempire 6y ago
  > Microsoft is now a OpenJDK contributor so what? MS also ships a complete Linux distro now. > Java has had several talks at Build and has parity with .NET on Azure SDKs, Office doesn't dictate all business lines. And Linux is the most installed OS on Azure... I can buy milk from my butcher, but his core product is still meat. you still fail to see the difference between what they offer to potential clients and what they use internally. They are expanding the offer but are still a software house in the end. It also means that MS is using its weight on free (as in free speech) technologies, like Google has done before with other OSS projects and we all know how it ended. > Office doesn't dictate all business lines Obviously, it doesn't. It only generates 33% of the revenues and 39% of the operative margins. The second largest segment for revenues, behind computing (mainly HW), the first for margins. Cloud comes third - and last - for revenues and second for profits with a pretty strong growth - less than 2018 but still strong -, but keep in mind that they include the Office 365 online offer and Gaming cloud in the segment. > And I bet you weren't reverse engineering Office to discover which ActiveX were implemented in J++ instead of VB 6. Would you bet ten millions dollar on it?

pjmlp 6y ago

Microsoft is now a OpenJDK contributor has bought jClarity, Java has had several talks at Build and has parity with .NET on Azure SDKs, Office doesn't dictate all business lines. And I bet you weren't reverse engineering Office to discover which ActiveX were implemented in J++ instead of VB 6.

chinesempire 6y ago
> Microsoft is now a OpenJDK contributor so what? MS also ships a complete Linux distro now. > Java has had several talks at Build and has parity with .NET on Azure SDKs, Office doesn't dictate all business lines. And Linux is the most installed OS on Azure... I can buy milk from my butcher, but his core product is still meat. you still fail to see the difference between what they offer to potential clients and what they use internally. They are expanding the offer but are still a software house in the end. It also means that MS is using its weight on free (as in free speech) technologies, like Google has done before with other OSS projects and we all know how it ended. > Office doesn't dictate all business lines Obviously, it doesn't. It only generates 33% of the revenues and 39% of the operative margins. The second largest segment for revenues, behind computing (mainly HW), the first for margins. Cloud comes third - and last - for revenues and second for profits with a pretty strong growth - less than 2018 but still strong -, but keep in mind that they include the Office 365 online offer and Gaming cloud in the segment. > And I bet you weren't reverse engineering Office to discover which ActiveX were implemented in J++ instead of VB 6. Would you bet ten millions dollar on it?