> It was to drink more and smack their wives. That is also a caricature. I think the middle ground between what you have said and I what I have said is more li

> It was to drink more and smack their wives. That is also a caricature. I think the middle ground between what you have said and I what I have said is more likely to be true. > Your romanticization of those people is utterly off the mark. Noted. In retrospect, I agree.