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Poor guy probably got fed for free at the office. I can’t think of any other reason, aside from more toilet paper usage at home.

deadmutex 6y ago
Maybe increased HVAC or other electricity costs? Let's give the benefit of the doubt here.
x0x0 6y ago
Needing an office. Lots of people in sfbay and nyc structure their living situations around not spending lots of time at home. That has been upended. My company is allowing people to become permanently remote, if they want. However, after covid, if you go full or mostly remote, it will be a hard requirement to have a dedicated room for an office. That is probably incompatible with living in most of the bay area.
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  > it will be a hard requirement to have a dedicated room for an office. Is this something they can actually verify?
  - x0x0 6y ago
    I doubt we're going to verify it. But if an employee can't provide a quiet, nice looking location for calls and reliable internet, they'll be fixing that situation or getting a different job. It's part of our planning on going remote in a way that is likely to succeed. iow, we're being explicit about requirements.
  - dllthomas 6y ago
    They could verify that you have a room that appears to be dedicated, especially during meetings and such. They probably can't reasonably verify that it remains dedicated outside of work hours, but they probably also don't care.
    - x0x0 6y ago
      exactly
ecnahc515 6y ago
Or you know...a desk and monitors. A lot of people don't have their own workstation setup at home and are sitting on the couch using their laptop for 8 hours because they have nothing else.
- scarface74 6y ago
  Most software developers don’t have a desk and their own computer setup at home?
  - MattGaiser 6y ago
    I have a software dev colleague who doesn't have a home computer. Surprising, but it happens.
    - dllthomas 6y ago
      I have a personal laptop, but before this I didn't have a dedicated space for it.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      To be completely fair though, while I’ve always made sure I had a WFH setup. There are plenty of times where I wasn’t sick to the point I couldn’t work, but I thought I might be contagious and stayed home out of courtesy even when I was working somewhere that didn’t have a work from home policy. Also, some years my allergies and asthma flair up so bad I’m disgusting to be around. But, if I wasn’t using my personal laptop as a Plex Server, I probably wouldn’t have a personal computer set up at home. My wife and I use our iPads for all of our limited personal computing needs. If I break down and get an a NVidia Sheild, I might completely shut down my personal computer.
  - karatestomp 6y ago
    If it weren't necessary for remote work and the kids doing online school shit (happens even with regular school in session, so much is online now—basically another form of remote work) I'd probably not bother to have home Internet, let alone a good home computer workstation.

deadmutex 6y ago

Maybe increased HVAC or other electricity costs? Let's give the benefit of the doubt here.

x0x0 6y ago

Needing an office. Lots of people in sfbay and nyc structure their living situations around not spending lots of time at home. That has been upended. My company is allowing people to become permanently remote, if they want. However, after covid, if you go full or mostly remote, it will be a hard requirement to have a dedicated room for an office. That is probably incompatible with living in most of the bay area.

MattGaiser 6y ago
> it will be a hard requirement to have a dedicated room for an office. Is this something they can actually verify?
- x0x0 6y ago
  I doubt we're going to verify it. But if an employee can't provide a quiet, nice looking location for calls and reliable internet, they'll be fixing that situation or getting a different job. It's part of our planning on going remote in a way that is likely to succeed. iow, we're being explicit about requirements.
- dllthomas 6y ago
  They could verify that you have a room that appears to be dedicated, especially during meetings and such. They probably can't reasonably verify that it remains dedicated outside of work hours, but they probably also don't care.
  - x0x0 6y ago
    exactly

ecnahc515 6y ago

Or you know...a desk and monitors. A lot of people don't have their own workstation setup at home and are sitting on the couch using their laptop for 8 hours because they have nothing else.

scarface74 6y ago
Most software developers don’t have a desk and their own computer setup at home?
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  I have a software dev colleague who doesn't have a home computer. Surprising, but it happens.
  - dllthomas 6y ago
    I have a personal laptop, but before this I didn't have a dedicated space for it.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    To be completely fair though, while I’ve always made sure I had a WFH setup. There are plenty of times where I wasn’t sick to the point I couldn’t work, but I thought I might be contagious and stayed home out of courtesy even when I was working somewhere that didn’t have a work from home policy. Also, some years my allergies and asthma flair up so bad I’m disgusting to be around. But, if I wasn’t using my personal laptop as a Plex Server, I probably wouldn’t have a personal computer set up at home. My wife and I use our iPads for all of our limited personal computing needs. If I break down and get an a NVidia Sheild, I might completely shut down my personal computer.
- karatestomp 6y ago
  If it weren't necessary for remote work and the kids doing online school shit (happens even with regular school in session, so much is online now—basically another form of remote work) I'd probably not bother to have home Internet, let alone a good home computer workstation.