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The Cold War was mostly a spy game and it kept the peace for decades. There was no gigantic WW3, no nuclear holocaust, and kept the regional conflicts limited
by blaser-waffle 6y ago
The Cold War was mostly a spy game and it kept the peace for decades. There was no gigantic WW3, no nuclear holocaust, and kept the regional conflicts limited to that specific region.
Everyone plays the great game, even allies vs other allies (e.g. the French spying on US businesses, and the US NSA spying on Europeans during negotiations).
- vkou 6y agoThen why are so many people losing their minds, banging war drums every time someone blames China in some hack or other? Is it due to a poor public understanding of realpolitik?
- Johnjonjoan 6y agoIt's because China is becoming near peer and it unsettles people.
- ntsplnkv2 6y agoSurely the threat of mass destruction had more to do with that so-called peace. And was it really peaceful? All that espionage essentially led to the proxy wars across the globe that cost countless number of lives.
- deathgrips 6y agoHow many people died in WW2 vs all wars after WW2?
- ntsplnkv2 6y agoWhy?
- deathgrips 6y agoProxy wars and spying kills less people than world wars. It's objectively better.
- ntsplnkv2 6y agoIt's only objectively better until another world war comes - we are not immune, and then, it will be easily objectively worse. This argument is rather pointless - externalizing warfare to poor nations and then saying the world is "peaceful" is quite immoral.
- deathgrips 6y agoDo you have a better, moral way to reduce war fatalities?
- ntsplnkv2 6y agoDo you have an argument that isn't a straw-man? Espionage is not used by governments to maintain peace and reduce war fatalities - it's used by governments to gain an edge over their adversaries. Espionage existed in WW2 as it did in times of peace - to say peace is a consequence of it is absurd. MAD is the only thing that has prevented major world conflict.
- z3ncyberpunk 6y agoThere was no nuclear Holocaust because all of ours and the Soviets nukes were deactivated. Had they not been, the idiotic leaders of our past and present would have already killed us all over petty trivialities and power games.
- opnitro 6y agoThere was no WW3, however, it certainly was not peaceful. See Vietnam and the various coups in South America for example.