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For the people complaining it’s not open source: Why does that matter ? It’s not like your markdown disappears if they do. You would just have to write software

For the people complaining it’s not open source: Why does that matter ? It’s not like your markdown disappears if they do. You would just have to write software or purchase another software with the same conventions.

O_H_E 6y ago
Since Obsidian is one-time purchase and offline-first, you would continue to use it as you were. Them going down should only affect future updates. Plus you would be able to continue writing plugins (when the API is released) to extend it if you want.
harritaylor 6y ago
Yeah, I’m totally confused by this. It’s not like the data is in a mega proprietary format, it’s all valid GitHub markdown apart from the back linking, which would probably be relatively easy to reimplement if the company went out of business. I see org-mode being promoted as a viable alternative but it’s personally been a significant pain in the arse getting org files to being valid markdown. The beauty of obsidian IMO is that the “backend” is just Plain text markdown files organised in folders.
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kixiQu 6y ago
It's a little overblown, sure--but I do think that for the super technical power users especially, people like to invest in getting their setup tweaked just right, including all the UX details. This then creates anxiety over the risk to all that time invested. I don't want to learn and rejigger a full set of power user keyboard shortcuts for an app that might disappear, goes the thinking. In addition, open source often means further tweaks are possible (though it sounds like they're trying to maintain extensibility so this may be less of a big deal).
milofeynman 6y ago
Joplin is open source and basically the same application minus the linked graph. For people complaining, use that. I do.
- cecja 6y ago
  It's not joplin uses md but the generated random filenames are such turn off I really can't recommend it because of it.
neop1x 6y ago
Simply because extensibility and plugins. Once they extend syntax greatly, plain text markdown files would contain lots of proprietary stuff no other editor would render correctly. It is also annoying to find and learn a new alternative every time a proprietary SW or service shuts down. And also some people run 100% FOSS on their machines, yes they are minority but they exist. For example to avoid stuff Adobe's updaters constantly running under root, effectively acting as a remotely acessible backdoor.

O_H_E 6y ago

Since Obsidian is one-time purchase and offline-first, you would continue to use it as you were. Them going down should only affect future updates. Plus you would be able to continue writing plugins (when the API is released) to extend it if you want.

harritaylor 6y ago

Yeah, I’m totally confused by this. It’s not like the data is in a mega proprietary format, it’s all valid GitHub markdown apart from the back linking, which would probably be relatively easy to reimplement if the company went out of business. I see org-mode being promoted as a viable alternative but it’s personally been a significant pain in the arse getting org files to being valid markdown. The beauty of obsidian IMO is that the “backend” is just Plain text markdown files organised in folders.

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kixiQu 6y ago

It's a little overblown, sure--but I do think that for the super technical power users especially, people like to invest in getting their setup tweaked just right, including all the UX details. This then creates anxiety over the risk to all that time invested. I don't want to learn and rejigger a full set of power user keyboard shortcuts for an app that might disappear, goes the thinking. In addition, open source often means further tweaks are possible (though it sounds like they're trying to maintain extensibility so this may be less of a big deal).

milofeynman 6y ago

Joplin is open source and basically the same application minus the linked graph. For people complaining, use that. I do.

cecja 6y ago
It's not joplin uses md but the generated random filenames are such turn off I really can't recommend it because of it.

neop1x 6y ago

Simply because extensibility and plugins. Once they extend syntax greatly, plain text markdown files would contain lots of proprietary stuff no other editor would render correctly. It is also annoying to find and learn a new alternative every time a proprietary SW or service shuts down. And also some people run 100% FOSS on their machines, yes they are minority but they exist. For example to avoid stuff Adobe's updaters constantly running under root, effectively acting as a remotely acessible backdoor.