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I suspect a lot of commenters and voters in this thread are from mainland China. It's astonishing to hear Chinese citizens' opinion of their government, even t

I suspect a lot of commenters and voters in this thread are from mainland China. It's astonishing to hear Chinese citizens' opinion of their government, even those who have emigrated elsewhere. The look of shock and disbelief when you relate commonly known events of the last 10 years is sad and underscores the power of propaganda.

blaser-waffle 6y ago
Ethno-centrism is a thing, often subconscious. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism As an American living abroad, I take offense, if in a very minor sense, when people criticize the US. Doubly so since a lot of the foreign critics have no idea wtf they're talking about. If I'm a Chinese guy in Vancouver I'm not going to be crazy about the CCP... but also not crazy about a bunch of round-eyes spouting off.
DiogenesKynikos 6y ago
The fact that so many Chinese people's opinions of their country differ so markedly from what you would expect, based on what you read in Western media, should at least lead to you reevaluate your own views. What you're saying is that Chinese people who have lived in the West, who have seen Western coverage of China, nevertheless are much more sympathetic to their government than you would expect. Doesn't that pique your interest? I'm not going to paint a rosy picture of China, but the view you get in most Western media is extremely heavily distorted, and almost completely out-of-touch with what is actually going on in China, what most people in China care about, and so on.
- TimTheTinker 6y ago
  > the view you get in most Western media is extremely heavily distorted I actually avoid mainstream Western media for news on China, as it frequently bends the truth in their favor, or fails to cover significant human rights abuses. The news I get (that matters to me) is more from groups with boots on the ground in mainland China.

blaser-waffle 6y ago

Ethno-centrism is a thing, often subconscious. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism As an American living abroad, I take offense, if in a very minor sense, when people criticize the US. Doubly so since a lot of the foreign critics have no idea wtf they're talking about. If I'm a Chinese guy in Vancouver I'm not going to be crazy about the CCP... but also not crazy about a bunch of round-eyes spouting off.

DiogenesKynikos 6y ago

The fact that so many Chinese people's opinions of their country differ so markedly from what you would expect, based on what you read in Western media, should at least lead to you reevaluate your own views. What you're saying is that Chinese people who have lived in the West, who have seen Western coverage of China, nevertheless are much more sympathetic to their government than you would expect. Doesn't that pique your interest? I'm not going to paint a rosy picture of China, but the view you get in most Western media is extremely heavily distorted, and almost completely out-of-touch with what is actually going on in China, what most people in China care about, and so on.

TimTheTinker 6y ago
> the view you get in most Western media is extremely heavily distorted I actually avoid mainstream Western media for news on China, as it frequently bends the truth in their favor, or fails to cover significant human rights abuses. The news I get (that matters to me) is more from groups with boots on the ground in mainland China.