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Elon has fascination for sci-fi aesthetics so no matter what, he is going to shoe horn it in. Sci-fi UI/UX was developed in a short time under pressure when mo

Elon has fascination for sci-fi aesthetics so no matter what, he is going to shoe horn it in. Sci-fi UI/UX was developed in a short time under pressure when movies were being made. The authors did not consider literally anything about the implications such as ergonomics, cost, reliability, discoverability, etc. Literally zero research behind it. It was not an engineering project by any stretch of the meaning. Sci-fi aesthetic is the cancer of our society propelled by big budget films and cultural impact worldwide. It has absolutely no place in space exploration. All this is decoration and marketing. Personally, I also hate the new space suit design, it looks like a movie set than those badass suits astronauts used to wear. They screamed of technical prowess, not aesthetics. Emerging aesthetics were absolutely badass: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Tim_Kopra_ACES_spacesuit.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Tim_Kopr... SpaceX/NASA are preparing the suiting up process right now. It looks like a low budget bad sci-fi movie: https://i.imgur.com/MzdPwD6.png https://i.imgur.com/MzdPwD6.png

unnouinceput 6y ago
hey, didn't you put almost exactly the same comment on 9gag as well?
twirlip 6y ago
The Crew Dragon touchscreen monitors compensate for vibration by oscillating the image, enhancing readability especially during reentry. Analog gauges are unable to do that. To say 'sci-fi aesthetic is the cancer of our society' is empty hyperbole. The sci-fi aesthetic mirrors the age in which we live. Additionally, which sci-fi aesthetic is so ruinous? Is it Star Wars with all it's switch, levers, and knobs? Is it 2001 and Star Trek with display monitors everywhere? Is it Blade Runner or Alien with a decayed future? What is this cancer causing your histrionic invective?
- fermienrico 6y ago
  You don't think that SpaceX's new spacesuit and cockpit design has any sci-fi decorations?
  - thelean12 6y ago
    I think that your insinuation that a significant number of those sci-fi aesthetics were implemented at a detriment to usability or safety is completely incorrect.
    - fermienrico 6y ago
      Could you please elaborate more on why it is completely incorrect? I think the opposite from what I've seen. Touch screens in a space capsule cockpit with UI and fonts that appear to be more of a pizzaz than functional. I think that SpaceX has leaned too much towards decoration while presumably sacrificing a tremendous amount of functional aspects. I don't know for sure because I've not operated those systems but I've seen Everyday Astronaut's YT tour of the Dragon capsule and it is a sad sight. My guess is neither have any of us used those systems, these are observations from limited information. I am also willing to bet, SpaceX UI designers have never even touched this document: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19940023266 https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19940023266
      - thelean12 6y ago
        Sure, I'll expand. We both have limited information. I assume that the professionals at SpaceX and NASA have prioritized safety and usability, while also introducing a sci-fi vibe. This is a reasonable position. You, however, take a conspiracy theory (the literal definition) angle that SpaceX have reduced the safety and usability of their module in order to look cooler. Do you see why this is not a reasonable position with the information that we have?
        fermienrico 6y ago
        > while also introducing a sci-fi vibe. This is a reasonable position. I think that's my main grumpy objection. May be I am just old. I also found your dismissal as "conspiracy" a low blow. How can I engage in a productive discussion when the other party dismisses your entire proposition as a conspiracy theory - you don't seem to see any issues with that?

unnouinceput 6y ago

hey, didn't you put almost exactly the same comment on 9gag as well?

twirlip 6y ago

The Crew Dragon touchscreen monitors compensate for vibration by oscillating the image, enhancing readability especially during reentry. Analog gauges are unable to do that. To say 'sci-fi aesthetic is the cancer of our society' is empty hyperbole. The sci-fi aesthetic mirrors the age in which we live. Additionally, which sci-fi aesthetic is so ruinous? Is it Star Wars with all it's switch, levers, and knobs? Is it 2001 and Star Trek with display monitors everywhere? Is it Blade Runner or Alien with a decayed future? What is this cancer causing your histrionic invective?

fermienrico 6y ago
You don't think that SpaceX's new spacesuit and cockpit design has any sci-fi decorations?
- thelean12 6y ago
  I think that your insinuation that a significant number of those sci-fi aesthetics were implemented at a detriment to usability or safety is completely incorrect.
  - fermienrico 6y ago
    Could you please elaborate more on why it is completely incorrect? I think the opposite from what I've seen. Touch screens in a space capsule cockpit with UI and fonts that appear to be more of a pizzaz than functional. I think that SpaceX has leaned too much towards decoration while presumably sacrificing a tremendous amount of functional aspects. I don't know for sure because I've not operated those systems but I've seen Everyday Astronaut's YT tour of the Dragon capsule and it is a sad sight. My guess is neither have any of us used those systems, these are observations from limited information. I am also willing to bet, SpaceX UI designers have never even touched this document: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19940023266 https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19940023266
    - thelean12 6y ago
      Sure, I'll expand. We both have limited information. I assume that the professionals at SpaceX and NASA have prioritized safety and usability, while also introducing a sci-fi vibe. This is a reasonable position. You, however, take a conspiracy theory (the literal definition) angle that SpaceX have reduced the safety and usability of their module in order to look cooler. Do you see why this is not a reasonable position with the information that we have?
      - fermienrico 6y ago
        > while also introducing a sci-fi vibe. This is a reasonable position. I think that's my main grumpy objection. May be I am just old. I also found your dismissal as "conspiracy" a low blow. How can I engage in a productive discussion when the other party dismisses your entire proposition as a conspiracy theory - you don't seem to see any issues with that?