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What I'm looking for: 1st priority: macOS & iOS apps that always sync, open FAST, and look clean, to enter new notes with no friction. Like Bear (which I curre

by rrherr 6y ago

What I'm looking for: 1st priority: macOS & iOS apps that always sync, open FAST, and look clean, to enter new notes with no friction. Like Bear (which I currently use) and Simplenote (which I used to use). 2nd priority: Bi-directional links. Like Roam and Obsidian. Transclusion. Like Roam (and Obsidian?) I'm willing to pay up to $15/month. Like Roam. Are there any solutions that give all of the above?

kilroy123 6y ago
I 100% agree. I've been tempted to migrate from Typora + Joplin to bear app. Do you think it's worth it?
- rrherr 6y ago
  I love Bear! Here are the only drawbacks I see: - Only available for macOS & iOS. - Not free if you need sync. But it's only $1.49/month! I'd rather pay for a tool because then it's more likely to last. - Has [[one-way links]] but not two-way, so I feel some FOMO when I see people getting so excited about Roam Research. If you migrate: Go to Preferences and turn on Markdown compatibility mode. Then use Import Notes to read all your files from Typora & Joplin.
  - Eugeleo 6y ago
    I think Andy Matuschak has some utility that automatically inserts the “Pages linking to here” into a mardkown document. Not sure if it could be used for Bear, but you might check it out.
aroberge 6y ago
I just joined the beta last week. I keep my notes as md files in a private github repo. I just "loaded" the folder in obsidian and it just worked. I imagine that any editor that you can use with your own storage place would work. Edit: Someone else mentioned " ... editing to add that I'm using iCloud for my vaults which allows for very fast syncing and the ability to edit on iOS".
Eugeleo 6y ago
Ad 1: You’d have to try it yourself, but to me, Obsidian works flawlessly on Mac. As another commeter said, it has a certain VS Code feel to it. No iOS app yet, but I think it’ll come sooner or later — you should keep an eye out. 2nd: Obsidian can transclude whole files or whole sections (afaik). No block-level transclusion, as there isn’t any concept of blocks in Markdown, but that shouldn’t matter much.
- rollinDyno 6y ago
  It matters enough for me to stay with Roam. I like how Obsidian is doing PR better than Roam, yet I can’t switch without block transclusion.
  - Eugeleo 6y ago
    I’m curious what do you use block transclusion for? When I used Roam, I did occasionally have a need to link to only a small part of some note, but that happened so rarely that I happily traded that in for the Obsidian-specific features (md based, offline-first).
    - rollinDyno 6y ago
      Most serious writing I do will consist of remixing the same ideas over and over again until it its practically unrecognisable. Roam is the perfect tool for making a collage of text while also keeping a reference to the primary sources. A simple search on youtube will show you how people use block references btw.

by rrherr 6y ago

kilroy123 6y ago

I 100% agree. I've been tempted to migrate from Typora + Joplin to bear app. Do you think it's worth it?

rrherr 6y ago
I love Bear! Here are the only drawbacks I see: - Only available for macOS & iOS. - Not free if you need sync. But it's only $1.49/month! I'd rather pay for a tool because then it's more likely to last. - Has [[one-way links]] but not two-way, so I feel some FOMO when I see people getting so excited about Roam Research. If you migrate: Go to Preferences and turn on Markdown compatibility mode. Then use Import Notes to read all your files from Typora & Joplin.
- Eugeleo 6y ago
  I think Andy Matuschak has some utility that automatically inserts the “Pages linking to here” into a mardkown document. Not sure if it could be used for Bear, but you might check it out.

aroberge 6y ago

I just joined the beta last week. I keep my notes as md files in a private github repo. I just "loaded" the folder in obsidian and it just worked. I imagine that any editor that you can use with your own storage place would work. Edit: Someone else mentioned " ... editing to add that I'm using iCloud for my vaults which allows for very fast syncing and the ability to edit on iOS".

Eugeleo 6y ago

Ad 1: You’d have to try it yourself, but to me, Obsidian works flawlessly on Mac. As another commeter said, it has a certain VS Code feel to it. No iOS app yet, but I think it’ll come sooner or later — you should keep an eye out. 2nd: Obsidian can transclude whole files or whole sections (afaik). No block-level transclusion, as there isn’t any concept of blocks in Markdown, but that shouldn’t matter much.

rollinDyno 6y ago
It matters enough for me to stay with Roam. I like how Obsidian is doing PR better than Roam, yet I can’t switch without block transclusion.
- Eugeleo 6y ago
  I’m curious what do you use block transclusion for? When I used Roam, I did occasionally have a need to link to only a small part of some note, but that happened so rarely that I happily traded that in for the Obsidian-specific features (md based, offline-first).
  - rollinDyno 6y ago
    Most serious writing I do will consist of remixing the same ideas over and over again until it its practically unrecognisable. Roam is the perfect tool for making a collage of text while also keeping a reference to the primary sources. A simple search on youtube will show you how people use block references btw.