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The space suit looks like it's made for a Halloween party. It looks kind of not flexible and fragile. The touch screen panel is surely very cool.

smeeth 6y ago
Right? Reading some of the comments here I thought I was going crazy - the suits look like they were made for a 2003 made-for-tv movie. Boeing suits look WAY better imo
- luizfzs 6y ago
  I had to search. Yeah, Boeing's look like a real space suit.
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  - tibbydudeza 6y ago
    Probably made from leftover Tesla upholstery :).
- ideals 6y ago
  At first I didn't really care for the SpaceX suit because I liked the raw look of the old NASA suits. But looking at it more, it reminds me of motorcycle leathers and that sleek look you get when your gear fits just right. Not a fan of Boeing suits tbh, it looks a bit like an arts and crafts project. Boeing suit: http://www.boeing.com/features/2017/01/space-suit-01-17.page http://www.boeing.com/features/2017/01/space-suit-01-17.page
  - smeeth 6y ago
    Very much agree about old NASA suits - especially the orange shuttle ones. I think it's important to discriminate between what the spacex suits look like in stylized prototypes and actually on people. Take this image for example: https://sm.pcmag.com/t/pcmag_uk/news/n/nasa-space/nasa-spacex-get-green-light-for-historic-crew-dragon-launch_2y5n.1200.jpg https://sm.pcmag.com/t/pcmag_uk/news/n/nasa-space/nasa-space...
j-pb 6y ago
I bet one day these damn panels are gonna kill a crew. Non haptic controls in critical systems like cars, planes, and rockets are an insane fad.
- rcurry 6y ago
  This. Maybe I'm just ignorant about the reliability of the screens that they're using, but those sure scream single point of failure to me.
  - jackyinger 6y ago
    I agree and would add that we’ve gotten very used to touchscreens on our very multi-purposed phones and tablets. Navigation is a fairly fixed function. I doubt these astronauts are going to installing new apps on their way to orbit... Interestingly offshore sailboat racers (IMOCA 60 class for instance) prefer keyboards and thumb ball mice. They’re not pulling g’s, but they experience some pretty extreme motion from waves.
    - dahfizz 6y ago
      Not all navigation is created equal. When navigating in a car or boat, you need to be able to look ahead and pay attention. Therefore physical control are better because you can use them without looking at them. That's not the case in a space ship. Additionally, piloting a space craft is infinitely more complicated. Just take a look at the Apollo 11 control module[1]. I think having a single place where you receive all your information and react to it is way better than having to memorize the location and function of thousands of physical elements. [1] https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/apollo-11-3.png https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/apollo-11-3....
  - nickik 6y ago
    Man if only they had 2 of the most experience pilots in the world that could test and validate ever one of the design decisions and could influence the design to their liking. If those guys had also space flight experience and could review all the engineering done on the capsule, that would be the way to do it. Oh, that is exactly what happens.
fermienrico 6y ago
Elon has fascination for sci-fi aesthetics so no matter what, he is going to shoe horn it in. Sci-fi UI/UX was developed in a short time under pressure when movies were being made. The authors did not consider literally anything about the implications such as ergonomics, cost, reliability, discoverability, etc. Literally zero research behind it. It was not an engineering project by any stretch of the meaning. Sci-fi aesthetic is the cancer of our society propelled by big budget films and cultural impact worldwide. It has absolutely no place in space exploration. All this is decoration and marketing. Personally, I also hate the new space suit design, it looks like a movie set than those badass suits astronauts used to wear. They screamed of technical prowess, not aesthetics. Emerging aesthetics were absolutely badass: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Tim_Kopra_ACES_spacesuit.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Tim_Kopr... SpaceX/NASA are preparing the suiting up process right now. It looks like a low budget bad sci-fi movie: https://i.imgur.com/MzdPwD6.png https://i.imgur.com/MzdPwD6.png
- unnouinceput 6y ago
  hey, didn't you put almost exactly the same comment on 9gag as well?
- twirlip 6y ago
  The Crew Dragon touchscreen monitors compensate for vibration by oscillating the image, enhancing readability especially during reentry. Analog gauges are unable to do that. To say 'sci-fi aesthetic is the cancer of our society' is empty hyperbole. The sci-fi aesthetic mirrors the age in which we live. Additionally, which sci-fi aesthetic is so ruinous? Is it Star Wars with all it's switch, levers, and knobs? Is it 2001 and Star Trek with display monitors everywhere? Is it Blade Runner or Alien with a decayed future? What is this cancer causing your histrionic invective?
  - fermienrico 6y ago
    You don't think that SpaceX's new spacesuit and cockpit design has any sci-fi decorations?
bhhaskin 6y ago
keep in mind that those aren't space suits, but flight suits.

smeeth 6y ago

Right? Reading some of the comments here I thought I was going crazy - the suits look like they were made for a 2003 made-for-tv movie. Boeing suits look WAY better imo

luizfzs 6y ago
I had to search. Yeah, Boeing's look like a real space suit.
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- tibbydudeza 6y ago
  Probably made from leftover Tesla upholstery :).
ideals 6y ago
At first I didn't really care for the SpaceX suit because I liked the raw look of the old NASA suits. But looking at it more, it reminds me of motorcycle leathers and that sleek look you get when your gear fits just right. Not a fan of Boeing suits tbh, it looks a bit like an arts and crafts project. Boeing suit: http://www.boeing.com/features/2017/01/space-suit-01-17.page http://www.boeing.com/features/2017/01/space-suit-01-17.page
- smeeth 6y ago
  Very much agree about old NASA suits - especially the orange shuttle ones. I think it's important to discriminate between what the spacex suits look like in stylized prototypes and actually on people. Take this image for example: https://sm.pcmag.com/t/pcmag_uk/news/n/nasa-space/nasa-spacex-get-green-light-for-historic-crew-dragon-launch_2y5n.1200.jpg https://sm.pcmag.com/t/pcmag_uk/news/n/nasa-space/nasa-space...

j-pb 6y ago

I bet one day these damn panels are gonna kill a crew. Non haptic controls in critical systems like cars, planes, and rockets are an insane fad.

rcurry 6y ago
This. Maybe I'm just ignorant about the reliability of the screens that they're using, but those sure scream single point of failure to me.
- jackyinger 6y ago
  I agree and would add that we’ve gotten very used to touchscreens on our very multi-purposed phones and tablets. Navigation is a fairly fixed function. I doubt these astronauts are going to installing new apps on their way to orbit... Interestingly offshore sailboat racers (IMOCA 60 class for instance) prefer keyboards and thumb ball mice. They’re not pulling g’s, but they experience some pretty extreme motion from waves.
  - dahfizz 6y ago
    Not all navigation is created equal. When navigating in a car or boat, you need to be able to look ahead and pay attention. Therefore physical control are better because you can use them without looking at them. That's not the case in a space ship. Additionally, piloting a space craft is infinitely more complicated. Just take a look at the Apollo 11 control module[1]. I think having a single place where you receive all your information and react to it is way better than having to memorize the location and function of thousands of physical elements. [1] https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/apollo-11-3.png https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/apollo-11-3....
- nickik 6y ago
  Man if only they had 2 of the most experience pilots in the world that could test and validate ever one of the design decisions and could influence the design to their liking. If those guys had also space flight experience and could review all the engineering done on the capsule, that would be the way to do it. Oh, that is exactly what happens.

fermienrico 6y ago

Elon has fascination for sci-fi aesthetics so no matter what, he is going to shoe horn it in. Sci-fi UI/UX was developed in a short time under pressure when movies were being made. The authors did not consider literally anything about the implications such as ergonomics, cost, reliability, discoverability, etc. Literally zero research behind it. It was not an engineering project by any stretch of the meaning. Sci-fi aesthetic is the cancer of our society propelled by big budget films and cultural impact worldwide. It has absolutely no place in space exploration. All this is decoration and marketing. Personally, I also hate the new space suit design, it looks like a movie set than those badass suits astronauts used to wear. They screamed of technical prowess, not aesthetics. Emerging aesthetics were absolutely badass: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Tim_Kopra_ACES_spacesuit.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Tim_Kopr... SpaceX/NASA are preparing the suiting up process right now. It looks like a low budget bad sci-fi movie: https://i.imgur.com/MzdPwD6.png https://i.imgur.com/MzdPwD6.png

unnouinceput 6y ago
hey, didn't you put almost exactly the same comment on 9gag as well?
twirlip 6y ago
The Crew Dragon touchscreen monitors compensate for vibration by oscillating the image, enhancing readability especially during reentry. Analog gauges are unable to do that. To say 'sci-fi aesthetic is the cancer of our society' is empty hyperbole. The sci-fi aesthetic mirrors the age in which we live. Additionally, which sci-fi aesthetic is so ruinous? Is it Star Wars with all it's switch, levers, and knobs? Is it 2001 and Star Trek with display monitors everywhere? Is it Blade Runner or Alien with a decayed future? What is this cancer causing your histrionic invective?
- fermienrico 6y ago
  You don't think that SpaceX's new spacesuit and cockpit design has any sci-fi decorations?

bhhaskin 6y ago

keep in mind that those aren't space suits, but flight suits.