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Tesla was amazing and unparalleled from about 2012 to 2018. In the U.S., since the Kona/Niro EVs, I-PACE, e-tron, and Taycan have shipped along with the Electri

Tesla was amazing and unparalleled from about 2012 to 2018. In the U.S., since the Kona/Niro EVs, I-PACE, e-tron, and Taycan have shipped along with the Electrify America rapid charging network, Tesla no longer has a corner on the EV market. A fully-decked-out Model S costs the same as a base Porsche Taycan 4S. I'd challenge anyone to test drive both cars configured at the ~$115k price point and then come back and tell me you wouldn't chose the Porsche.

tonycoco 6y ago
Cheapest Taycan I could find was $145k. 192 mile range. I'll take the Model S that is faster and nearly double the range at this point.
- gamblor956 6y ago
  The Taycan is a true luxury performance car. You're not buying it for the range or nominal maximum speed, you're buying it for the creature comforts...and the ability to go 95% as fast as the (current versions of the) Model S for 100x longer, or even faster with the creature comforts removed for racing.
  - steelframe 6y ago
    To be clear, Taycan has a gearbox and a higher maximum speed. I think the word the poster you're responding to meant was "quicker." Regardless, the 2020 Tesla Model S Performance is neither quicker nor faster than the 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S: https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/taycanvstesla-graphs-accelerationtest-1581089637.png?resize=980:* https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images...
- steelframe 6y ago
  > Cheapest Taycan I could find was $145k. If you use the online configuration utility and select Taycan 4S, you will find you can purchase one for $114,340: https://imgur.com/X3KAfBd https://imgur.com/X3KAfBd > 192 mile range. Since the first Taycan deliveries happened back in January, it's a well-known fact that the EPA's range is completely bogus: https://electrek.co/2020/02/10/porsche-taycan-tesla-model-s-p100d/ https://electrek.co/2020/02/10/porsche-taycan-tesla-model-s-... When driving 75mph on a road trip, you can expect to get 209 miles out of a Taycan and 222 miles from a 2020 Tesla Model S Performance. Given that the Taycan charges at 270kW, that means you will complete a road trip significantly faster in a Taycan than you will in a Model S: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a30894056/porsche-taycan-fast-charging-tesla-model-s/ https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a30894056/porsche-tayca...

tonycoco 6y ago

Cheapest Taycan I could find was $145k. 192 mile range. I'll take the Model S that is faster and nearly double the range at this point.

gamblor956 6y ago
The Taycan is a true luxury performance car. You're not buying it for the range or nominal maximum speed, you're buying it for the creature comforts...and the ability to go 95% as fast as the (current versions of the) Model S for 100x longer, or even faster with the creature comforts removed for racing.
- steelframe 6y ago
  To be clear, Taycan has a gearbox and a higher maximum speed. I think the word the poster you're responding to meant was "quicker." Regardless, the 2020 Tesla Model S Performance is neither quicker nor faster than the 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S: https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/taycanvstesla-graphs-accelerationtest-1581089637.png?resize=980:* https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images...
steelframe 6y ago
> Cheapest Taycan I could find was $145k. If you use the online configuration utility and select Taycan 4S, you will find you can purchase one for $114,340: https://imgur.com/X3KAfBd https://imgur.com/X3KAfBd > 192 mile range. Since the first Taycan deliveries happened back in January, it's a well-known fact that the EPA's range is completely bogus: https://electrek.co/2020/02/10/porsche-taycan-tesla-model-s-p100d/ https://electrek.co/2020/02/10/porsche-taycan-tesla-model-s-... When driving 75mph on a road trip, you can expect to get 209 miles out of a Taycan and 222 miles from a 2020 Tesla Model S Performance. Given that the Taycan charges at 270kW, that means you will complete a road trip significantly faster in a Taycan than you will in a Model S: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a30894056/porsche-taycan-fast-charging-tesla-model-s/ https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a30894056/porsche-tayca...