> different teams thinking for a long time is absolutely no guarantee of a successful outcome Of course it is no guarantee for success. But an outsider has ab

> different teams thinking for a long time is absolutely no guarantee of a successful outcome Of course it is no guarantee for success. But an outsider has absolutely no clue about what was discussed and what the politics were. So I think it is naive to make comments like "this is never going to work", or "removing the headphone jack will bring Apple down".