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> I find this comment utterly mind boggling. The US's stay at home orders were issued when? Mid to end of March? That makes it what? About 1 month? Are we suppo

> I find this comment utterly mind boggling. The US's stay at home orders were issued when? Mid to end of March? That makes it what? About 1 month? Are we supposed to believe that "young people" suddenly get into a tail spin because they have to endure a whole month of not finding a partner, get to know each other, make life plans, and get pregnant? No, but millions have lost their jobs due to the shutdown, and it's very conceivable that many would put off children/marriage/partnership because of that.

SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
I know that the whole "have kids" thing, which we were thinking about, has basically been totally shut down. Nope, this is craziness, time to just survive for the next few years.
- karatestomp 6y ago
  On the plus side, if you catch a bad case of Covid then a birth this year will probably work out as free because you'll be hitting your out-of-pocket max anyway. Just make sure you time it so the birth doesn't hit on the next year or they'll get you for double. (yes, for international folks, people in the US who've thought it through really do base their family planning in large part on when their annual insurance limits reset, because the difference in costs can be thousands of dollars even with pretty good insurance, if you accidentally land most of the prenatal care on one year and the birth itself on the next)
  - subhobroto 6y ago
    > out-of-pocket max > yes, for international folks, people in the US That's not the end of it. There's an "in network" deductible and "out of network" (OON) deductible. Depending on the health plan you have and the state you live in, the hospitals can also "balance bill" if they are OON. When giving birth, parents in the U.S. is very much expected to ask everyone involved, I repeat, everyone involved that they are not OON. It's insane.
- avgDev 6y ago
  We had a baby in May, it was a bit uncomfortable being in the hospital but it everyone is healthy. I'm in Illinois and I am grateful our governor ordered stay at home. We were worried about over crowding at hospitals. But yeah....I don't think anyone would willingly have a baby right now.
  - SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
    Congratulations!

SketchySeaBeast 6y ago

I know that the whole "have kids" thing, which we were thinking about, has basically been totally shut down. Nope, this is craziness, time to just survive for the next few years.

karatestomp 6y ago
On the plus side, if you catch a bad case of Covid then a birth this year will probably work out as free because you'll be hitting your out-of-pocket max anyway. Just make sure you time it so the birth doesn't hit on the next year or they'll get you for double. (yes, for international folks, people in the US who've thought it through really do base their family planning in large part on when their annual insurance limits reset, because the difference in costs can be thousands of dollars even with pretty good insurance, if you accidentally land most of the prenatal care on one year and the birth itself on the next)
- subhobroto 6y ago
  > out-of-pocket max > yes, for international folks, people in the US That's not the end of it. There's an "in network" deductible and "out of network" (OON) deductible. Depending on the health plan you have and the state you live in, the hospitals can also "balance bill" if they are OON. When giving birth, parents in the U.S. is very much expected to ask everyone involved, I repeat, everyone involved that they are not OON. It's insane.
avgDev 6y ago
We had a baby in May, it was a bit uncomfortable being in the hospital but it everyone is healthy. I'm in Illinois and I am grateful our governor ordered stay at home. We were worried about over crowding at hospitals. But yeah....I don't think anyone would willingly have a baby right now.
- SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
  Congratulations!