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Yes, it's a new problem. Firing inspector generals en masse [1], personally attacking specific FBI agents and their families [2], intervening in the criminal p

• CapricornNoble 6y ago
  >>>firing inspector generals en masse https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_michelle_malkin/stop_obama_s_war_on_watchdogs https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_co... >>>intervening in the criminal proceedings of your friends and political allies http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/obama-fires-inspector-general-who-investigated-a-friend?news=839026 http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/obama-fires-inspect... https://cei.org/blog/obama-fires-inspector-general-who-uncovered-fraud-and-honors-defrauder-instead https://cei.org/blog/obama-fires-inspector-general-who-uncov... >>>a comprehensive strategy to weed out anyone who disagrees with you https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/06/obamas-whistleblowers-stuxnet-leaks-drones/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/06/obamas-whistleb... https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/7/president-obama-discussed-flynn-probe-comey-white-/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/7/president-ob... >>>pattern of comprehensive corruption is unique to this administration If you think that this administration is UNIQUELY corrupt....you might be in an echo chamber. Here's a more humorous take on the Obama administration's screwups: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T7F2mvZE1E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T7F2mvZE1E That, or have a short memory, since Trump and Obama both pale in comparison to VP Dick Cheney and the Iraq War (KBR? Halliburton? have people forgotten about them already?).
  • ciarannolan 6y ago
    Do you have any links that aren't from these wackjob, far-right fever dream websites? It's honestly hard to even read some of these without laughing. >https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_michelle_malkin/stop_obama_s_war_on_watchdogs https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_co... All I see is extreme editorializing of the regular push and pull of government ("horrific neglect", "bull[ing]", "stonewalling", etc). How many of them were fired because Obama didn't like what they were investigating? Trump's count is 5 in the last few weeks. I'm sure Obama fired at least that many if you're making a comparison, right? >http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/obama-fires-inspector-general-who-investigated-a-friend?news=839026 http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/obama-fires-inspect... >https://cei.org/blog/obama-fires-inspector-general-who-uncovered-fraud-and-honors-defrauder-instead https://cei.org/blog/obama-fires-inspector-general-who-uncov... You don't take these blog posts seriously, do you? His connection to Obama was... what exactly? This is prototypical far right nuttery: oBaMaS FrIeNd dEeP StAtE BeZoS NyT AmAzOn hEr eMaIlS. >http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/obama-fires-inspector-general-who-investigated-a-friend?news=839026 http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/obama-fires-inspect... >https://cei.org/blog/obama-fires-inspector-general-who-uncovered-fraud-and-honors-defrauder-instead https://cei.org/blog/obama-fires-inspector-general-who-uncov... I wonder if you actually read these, since they have basically nothing to do with what you quoted. Did you just google "Obama friends bad" and copy/paste the first few links or something? >"Obamagate II: Secret of the Schmooze" Not going to spend time watching some fringe conspiracy YouTube channel, sorry. More complete nuttiness. >That, or have a short memory, since Trump and Obama both pale in comparison to VP Dick Cheney and the Iraq War (KBR? Halliburton? have people forgotten about them already?). I'm disappointed that I got this far before seeing this. You should seriously consider that you may be in a short, narrow, and extremely loud echo chamber. These aren't the kinds of ideas that normal, well-read, well-informed people from all sides of the political spectrum hold.
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    • CapricornNoble 6y ago
      >>>Do you have any links that aren't from these wackjob, far-right fever dream websites? Far-right websites like the Washington Post? http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/06/third_case_of_watchdog_interfe.html http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/06/third_c... >>>His connection to Obama was... what exactly? Kevin Johnson was a public political supporter of Obama while mayor of Sacramento.[1] Walpin investigated Johnson for fraud. Obama fired Walpin. Which one of those three facts are you disputing? >>>since they have basically nothing to do with what you quoted The cei.org link should have been grouped with the Rasmussen Reports link as they are both related to the firing of IGs. >>>Not going to spend time watching some fringe conspiracy YouTube channel That video cites numerous articles from major journalistic outlets (BBC, NY Observer which itself cites the Washington Post) relevant to the discussion of corruption in the Obama administration, and runs through them at the cyclic rate. It's time-efficient content. It's also funny. But you can't debate any of the information provided, or any of the conclusions drawn, if you discount the presenter as "fringe conspiracy nuttiness". >>>You should seriously consider that you may be in a short, narrow, and extremely loud echo chamber. In this thread I've cited sources ranging from the right (Michelle Malkin, Heritage foundation), to the center (BBC, CBS News), to the left (Washington Post, Politifact). You haven't posted anything, haven't countered any of the facts, and have only criticized the sources with strawman accusations of "far right conspiracies". I would challenge you to be more aggressive about exposing yourself to information that challenges your positions and assumptions, and avoid the strawmen. >>>These aren't the kinds of ideas that normal, well-read, well-informed people from all sides of the political spectrum hold. Which idea are you arguing against, that Dick Cheney and associated companies were massively corrupt? [2] [3] [1]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-introduced-chicago-bulls-theme/story?id=28441471 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-introduced-c... [2]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2010/jun/09/arianna-huffington/halliburton-kbr-and-iraq-war-contracting-history-s/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2010/jun/09/arianna-hu... [3]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/halliburton-whistleblower-on-exposing-7-billion-no-bid-defense-contract-2019-06-30/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/halliburton-whistleblower-on-ex...