> I never stated an opinion on the policies, and you don't seem to be saying I'm wrong. I'm clearly saying you are wrong with examples and sources. > I have t

> I never stated an opinion on the policies, and you don't seem to be saying I'm wrong. I'm clearly saying you are wrong with examples and sources. > I have to wonder how anyone can say anything positive about China, if even accurate descriptions are "propaganda". You can say positive and negative things about every country. China isn't an exception regardless of your agenda. It's bizarre that anyone would even write "wonder how anyone can say anything positive about China". Well how about this? Their economic growth? Their impressive poverty reduction? Their infrastructure build-up? > If you actually want to help China's reputation I'd also advise skipping the whataboutism. It's not "whataboutism" to directly refute your claim : "because you can't copy the Chinese government." + "They directly keep out foreign competition like Facebook". You certainly see the difference between whataboutism and a refutation with examples right? And I'm not here to help China's reputation because I don't have an agenda like you. I'm here to refute nonsense and bullshit propaganda.