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From the creators of "what if we fought ads on the web by making our own ads you can't block and attaching a cryptocurrency to it" comes video calling that does

From the creators of "what if we fought ads on the web by making our own ads you can't block and attaching a cryptocurrency to it" comes video calling that doesn't work on Firefox. No thanks.

sharkmerry 6y ago
Ads are here to stay unless human nature about paying for shit changes. Brave's approach while still having ads may nor may not be worse than FireFox who receive the majority of their revenue by partnering with search engines, who, y'know, mine your data and dont pay for it
- PascLeRasc 6y ago
  We don't need to guess about Brave's approach, it is worse: https://practicaltypography.com/the-cowardice-of-brave.html https://practicaltypography.com/the-cowardice-of-brave.html
  - alwillis 6y ago
    It’s only worse if you’re invested in the current surveillance capitalism of the current ad system that exists. We need a better way of funding websites that doesn't involve selling people's personal information and tracking data.
  - sharkmerry 6y ago
    Wow, thats a long piece. He ends his essay with > You know what would’ve been brave, Mr. Eich? Charging users for your software—on the idea that personal privacy is worth it—and puncturing the myth that web browsers must be free. Which my point you were replying to already addressed. People dont like paying for shit. > Or helping publishers find a way to induce more readers to pay for the material they find valuable, without the unnecessary indirection of ads and cryptocurrency. Like I do. No indication how much money he makes "his way" or if he would make more with ads. No indication how to "induce more readers to pay". It may work on a single blog but doesnt work when you are scaling.
alwillis 6y ago
Seeing Brave’s ads and getting paid in cryptocurrency is opt-in, so nobody is being forced to do so.
MiroF 6y ago
> making our own ads you can't block I keep seeing this claim, but I don't think its true? The ads are opt-in
john-shaffer 6y ago
This is false. You have to explicitly find and enable ads on Brave. The vast majority of users probably have no idea that they can see ads. Have you ever used Brave? Even once?

From the creators of "what if we fought ads on the web by making our own ads you can't block and attaching a cryptocurrency to it" comes video calling that doesn't work on Firefox. No thanks.

sharkmerry 6y ago

Ads are here to stay unless human nature about paying for shit changes. Brave's approach while still having ads may nor may not be worse than FireFox who receive the majority of their revenue by partnering with search engines, who, y'know, mine your data and dont pay for it

PascLeRasc 6y ago
We don't need to guess about Brave's approach, it is worse: https://practicaltypography.com/the-cowardice-of-brave.html https://practicaltypography.com/the-cowardice-of-brave.html
- alwillis 6y ago
  It’s only worse if you’re invested in the current surveillance capitalism of the current ad system that exists. We need a better way of funding websites that doesn't involve selling people's personal information and tracking data.
- sharkmerry 6y ago
  Wow, thats a long piece. He ends his essay with > You know what would’ve been brave, Mr. Eich? Charging users for your software—on the idea that personal privacy is worth it—and puncturing the myth that web browsers must be free. Which my point you were replying to already addressed. People dont like paying for shit. > Or helping publishers find a way to induce more readers to pay for the material they find valuable, without the unnecessary indirection of ads and cryptocurrency. Like I do. No indication how much money he makes "his way" or if he would make more with ads. No indication how to "induce more readers to pay". It may work on a single blog but doesnt work when you are scaling.

alwillis 6y ago

Seeing Brave’s ads and getting paid in cryptocurrency is opt-in, so nobody is being forced to do so.

MiroF 6y ago

> making our own ads you can't block I keep seeing this claim, but I don't think its true? The ads are opt-in

john-shaffer 6y ago

This is false. You have to explicitly find and enable ads on Brave. The vast majority of users probably have no idea that they can see ads. Have you ever used Brave? Even once?