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> (or all soulsborne-kiro) Gaah, are we really calling them this now? Can't we just say "FromSoft games"? Are we going to lengthen it even further with Elden R

> (or all soulsborne-kiro) Gaah, are we really calling them this now? Can't we just say "FromSoft games"? Are we going to lengthen it even further with Elden Ring? Soulsbornekiroring games.

scollet 6y ago
Lest you forget Armored Core.
- dkersten 6y ago
  I would actually love a soulslike Armored Core. Please, FROM!
on_and_off 6y ago
FromSoft also made Armored core, so no. Most often people call these soulslikes. Kind of a dumb name and it might artificially constrain new entries to fit into a Dark Souls shaped hole (for example all these games don't have to have basically the same minimalistic light vs dark story) but well, that's how we talked about doomslike for a while as well. Not sure what other descriptive we could use, intentional games ? The combat being more focused on giving weight to your actions vs allowing you to interrupt and change course anytime is the biggest differentiator IMO. GMTK made a great video on what this genra by the way : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx7BWayWu08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx7BWayWu08
- Trasmatta 6y ago
  The problem with "Souls-likes" is it encompasses non FromSoftware games, whereas people saying stuff like "Soulsbornekiro" are referring to their games only. I think Souls-like is a fine descriptor for things like Salt and Sanctuary, The Surge, Nioh, etc. It's harder to find a descriptor for FromSoft's games. Honestly, I think tacking Sekiro on is my biggest issue, because that game is by their biggest departure from the Souls formula. > for example all these games don't have to have basically the same minimalistic light vs dark story I would argue From's games themselves don't fit in the simple "light vs dark" mold. Dark Souls is honestly more of a deconstruction of "light vs dark" tropes.

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> (or all soulsborne-kiro) Gaah, are we really calling them this now? Can't we just say "FromSoft games"? Are we going to lengthen it even further with Elden R

by Trasmatta 6y ago

> (or all soulsborne-kiro) Gaah, are we really calling them this now? Can't we just say "FromSoft games"? Are we going to lengthen it even further with Elden Ring? Soulsbornekiroring games.

scollet 6y ago
Lest you forget Armored Core.
- dkersten 6y ago
  I would actually love a soulslike Armored Core. Please, FROM!
on_and_off 6y ago
FromSoft also made Armored core, so no. Most often people call these soulslikes. Kind of a dumb name and it might artificially constrain new entries to fit into a Dark Souls shaped hole (for example all these games don't have to have basically the same minimalistic light vs dark story) but well, that's how we talked about doomslike for a while as well. Not sure what other descriptive we could use, intentional games ? The combat being more focused on giving weight to your actions vs allowing you to interrupt and change course anytime is the biggest differentiator IMO. GMTK made a great video on what this genra by the way : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx7BWayWu08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx7BWayWu08
- Trasmatta 6y ago
  The problem with "Souls-likes" is it encompasses non FromSoftware games, whereas people saying stuff like "Soulsbornekiro" are referring to their games only. I think Souls-like is a fine descriptor for things like Salt and Sanctuary, The Surge, Nioh, etc. It's harder to find a descriptor for FromSoft's games. Honestly, I think tacking Sekiro on is my biggest issue, because that game is by their biggest departure from the Souls formula. > for example all these games don't have to have basically the same minimalistic light vs dark story I would argue From's games themselves don't fit in the simple "light vs dark" mold. Dark Souls is honestly more of a deconstruction of "light vs dark" tropes.