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I think an interesting question following it up is, how do you transfer energy between capacitors then, without losing so much energy? (someone else asked if th
by gnramires 6y ago
I think an interesting question following it up is, how do you transfer energy between capacitors then, without losing so much energy? (someone else asked if this is a fundamental limitation)
There are many alternatives. A good start is noting that the inefficiency is actually lower the lower the starting voltage difference:
V1 = V, V2 = V-dV
V' = (V + (V-dV))/2 = V+dV/2
We can define efficiency as the ratio of energy lost by the first to energy transferred to the other.
dU1 = U1-U1' = CV^2/2-CV'^2/2 = C/2 (V dV-dV^2/4)
dU2 = U2'-U2 = CV'^2/2-C(V-dV)^2/2 = C/2 (-V dV+dV^2/4+2VdV-dV^2) = C/2 (V dV - 3dV^2/4 )
n = (dU2/dU1) = ( V - 3dV/4 ) / ( V - dV/4) ~ 1 - 3/4 dV/V (for small dV)
as dV → 0, n → 1. You lose 3/4 of the fractional difference in efficiency, so for 10% difference your efficiency is ~92.5%, pretty great.
Now, there are indeed devices that change voltages without energy losses! (transformers, for example). So if you plug in a variable transformer that keeps the voltage close to the target, your (dis)charging efficiency can be arbitrarily high.
Of course, if your second voltage is 0, the efficiency must start at 1/3 no matter what (which can seem to imply this cannot be changed) -- but as soon as you have a small voltage you can start tracking it and keep efficiency high.
Challenge to the reader: Use quantum mechanics and thermodynamics to derive a fundamental limit of efficiency (which must be less than 1 at positive temperatures) :)
- mindslight 6y agoInductor in series with a diode. The voltage differential stores energy in the inductor's magnetic field, which comes back out when the destination capacitor is at a higher voltage than the source capacitor. The diode keeps the process from repeating in reverse (oscillation).
- gnramires 6y agoCool, but what if you want the voltages to be exactly equal (while keeping no losses)? :)
- mindslight 6y agoDump the charge into a third capacitor, connect the two you want equal, and dump the charge back.