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I'm from Israel, and this is the first time I've heard about the .קום tld. I've never seen any website that uses it. The author mentioned that creating a new t

by yarinr 6y ago

I'm from Israel, and this is the first time I've heard about the .קום tld. I've never seen any website that uses it. The author mentioned that creating a new tld costs a minimum of 185k USD. This makes me wonder who would pay this kind of money for this completely useless tld.

manquer 6y ago
Perhaps government organizations ? Also not all TLD's cost 185k to create, ccTLD were given free to each country to mange for example, similarly language specific common gTLD may have had special provisions for some countries to manage perhaps.
esnard 6y ago
The applicant was actually Verisign. [0][1] [0]: https://icannwiki.org/.%D7%A7%D7%95%D6%B9%D7%9D https://icannwiki.org/.%D7%A7%D7%95%D6%B9%D7%9D [1]: https://gtldresult.icann.org/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1138 https://gtldresult.icann.org/applicationstatus/applicationde...
tialaramex 6y ago
If they managed it for only $185k I'm impressed, maybe if you did several on the same infrastructure. It's a gold mine offering. There was a long queue of people quite sure that .binglebongle would be the new .com. Sometimes it was a marginally less stupid plan, like we can be a regional alternative - and Russia even has one that's actually making money - it isn't taking over the world, but it's Cyrillic and was never intended to. But most gold mines never produce gold, they just suck up people's money and dreams and spit out the bones. The obscure brand TLDs are funnier. Not brands you've heard of like google, brands who are their own tiny corner of the non-IT world and figured they ought to have a TLD, so now they do to the tune of maybe six figures a year. The Kerry Group for example owns several, as do some US financial outfits. Why? Because nobody who knew this was a stupid idea was in the room when it got decided.
- snazz 6y ago
  > The obscure brand TLDs are funnier. Not brands you've heard of like google, brands who are their own tiny corner of the non-IT world and figured they ought to have a TLD, so now they do to the tune of maybe six figures a year. While everyone here has certainly heard of Softbank, I find it amusing that they have their own TLD too (with sites like https://group.softbank/ https://group.softbank/).
  - r3dk1ng 6y ago
    > everyone here has certainly heard of softbank not until your comment had I heard of "softbank"
- Polylactic_acid 6y ago
  I'm pretty pissed off that some TLDs went to the exclusive use of corporations. I really wanted a domain with .fox but its taken by the media corporation which doesn't use it for anything.
- foepys 6y ago
  Afaik most of the new TLDs are hosted by a few specialized ISPs that have enough DNS infrastructure to comply with ICANN's standards. Apart from tech companies, nobody wants to maintain DNS servers.
ars 6y ago
.קום is just .com transliterated into Hebrew letters, right? That actually seems quite useful, if people are typing not realizing the keyboard is set to Hebrew.
- vinay427 6y ago
  That would only work if the Hebrew keyboard layout they were using had this mapping of letters. Most language layouts for non-Roman scripts don't optimize for phonetically approximating the corresponding English letters (presumably on a QWERTY layout). It appears that they don't match to the TLD letters here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard
  - yarinr 6y ago
    That's correct. Typing 'com' with the keyboard set to Hebrew results in 'בםצ' (which is not even pronounceable) not 'קום'. The Hebrew keyboard layout has no relation to QWERTY in terms of phonetics.
    - ars 6y ago
      There is a Hebrew phonetic keyboard layout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard#Hebrew_on_standard_Latin-based_keyboards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard#Hebrew_on_stan... it's built in on Android, windows, Linux, etc. Usually used by non-native Hebrew speakers. > 'בםצ' (which is not even pronounceable) Sounds like a new snack from Osem :)
- creatornator 6y ago
  If the keyboard was set to Hebrew then the subdomain would also be spelled out in the wrong characters, so the URL would be nonsense or go to a different site. Additionally, as people mentioned, the standard Hebrew layout is incompatible with QUERTY (I am a Hebrew speaker and have never heard of the phonetic Hebrew layout you linked to). Also when you type the URL the characters would be spelled out in the oppose right-to-left direction as .com.
Ayesh 6y ago
Many national TLD holders (ccTLDs) control a TLD in local language. .lk registry, for example, also controls .ලංකා and .இலங்கை (sounding "Lanka" "Ilangei" in Sinhalese and Tamil, the two other official languages in Sri Lanka), and they do not cost $185K. In fact, ccTLDs don't cost any money as far as I'm aware. DNS servers are run by the government funding but there is no cost to pay to ICANN.

by yarinr 6y ago

manquer 6y ago

Perhaps government organizations ? Also not all TLD's cost 185k to create, ccTLD were given free to each country to mange for example, similarly language specific common gTLD may have had special provisions for some countries to manage perhaps.

esnard 6y ago

The applicant was actually Verisign. [0][1] [0]: https://icannwiki.org/.%D7%A7%D7%95%D6%B9%D7%9D https://icannwiki.org/.%D7%A7%D7%95%D6%B9%D7%9D [1]: https://gtldresult.icann.org/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1138 https://gtldresult.icann.org/applicationstatus/applicationde...

tialaramex 6y ago

If they managed it for only $185k I'm impressed, maybe if you did several on the same infrastructure. It's a gold mine offering. There was a long queue of people quite sure that .binglebongle would be the new .com. Sometimes it was a marginally less stupid plan, like we can be a regional alternative - and Russia even has one that's actually making money - it isn't taking over the world, but it's Cyrillic and was never intended to. But most gold mines never produce gold, they just suck up people's money and dreams and spit out the bones. The obscure brand TLDs are funnier. Not brands you've heard of like google, brands who are their own tiny corner of the non-IT world and figured they ought to have a TLD, so now they do to the tune of maybe six figures a year. The Kerry Group for example owns several, as do some US financial outfits. Why? Because nobody who knew this was a stupid idea was in the room when it got decided.

snazz 6y ago
> The obscure brand TLDs are funnier. Not brands you've heard of like google, brands who are their own tiny corner of the non-IT world and figured they ought to have a TLD, so now they do to the tune of maybe six figures a year. While everyone here has certainly heard of Softbank, I find it amusing that they have their own TLD too (with sites like https://group.softbank/ https://group.softbank/).
- r3dk1ng 6y ago
  > everyone here has certainly heard of softbank not until your comment had I heard of "softbank"
Polylactic_acid 6y ago
I'm pretty pissed off that some TLDs went to the exclusive use of corporations. I really wanted a domain with .fox but its taken by the media corporation which doesn't use it for anything.
foepys 6y ago
Afaik most of the new TLDs are hosted by a few specialized ISPs that have enough DNS infrastructure to comply with ICANN's standards. Apart from tech companies, nobody wants to maintain DNS servers.

ars 6y ago

.קום is just .com transliterated into Hebrew letters, right? That actually seems quite useful, if people are typing not realizing the keyboard is set to Hebrew.

vinay427 6y ago
That would only work if the Hebrew keyboard layout they were using had this mapping of letters. Most language layouts for non-Roman scripts don't optimize for phonetically approximating the corresponding English letters (presumably on a QWERTY layout). It appears that they don't match to the TLD letters here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard
- yarinr 6y ago
  That's correct. Typing 'com' with the keyboard set to Hebrew results in 'בםצ' (which is not even pronounceable) not 'קום'. The Hebrew keyboard layout has no relation to QWERTY in terms of phonetics.
  - ars 6y ago
    There is a Hebrew phonetic keyboard layout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard#Hebrew_on_standard_Latin-based_keyboards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard#Hebrew_on_stan... it's built in on Android, windows, Linux, etc. Usually used by non-native Hebrew speakers. > 'בםצ' (which is not even pronounceable) Sounds like a new snack from Osem :)
creatornator 6y ago
If the keyboard was set to Hebrew then the subdomain would also be spelled out in the wrong characters, so the URL would be nonsense or go to a different site. Additionally, as people mentioned, the standard Hebrew layout is incompatible with QUERTY (I am a Hebrew speaker and have never heard of the phonetic Hebrew layout you linked to). Also when you type the URL the characters would be spelled out in the oppose right-to-left direction as .com.

Ayesh 6y ago

Many national TLD holders (ccTLDs) control a TLD in local language. .lk registry, for example, also controls .ලංකා and .இலங்கை (sounding "Lanka" "Ilangei" in Sinhalese and Tamil, the two other official languages in Sri Lanka), and they do not cost $185K. In fact, ccTLDs don't cost any money as far as I'm aware. DNS servers are run by the government funding but there is no cost to pay to ICANN.