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If we think of capitalism in the 18th century... it's worth remembering that this the canonical "Capitalism." That is, it is what Marx was describing (and derid
by netcan 6y ago
If we think of capitalism in the 18th century... it's worth remembering that this the canonical "Capitalism." That is, it is what Marx was describing (and deriding) as he popularised the concept of "capitalism." It's also the world of trade that Ricardo described, and his concepts are still at the core of trade economics today.
The Dutch British Empires started as companies. Nationally backed, but shareholder owned and employee run.
In any case, the lynchpin to all this trade had to be something that had value at home.. where the ships ultimately returned.
The Spanish and other empires before the Dutch & British sought gold directly. Steal it, Buy it, Mine it... Doesn't matter. This was, broadly "mercantilism." Get Gold. Bring it Home.
Adam Smith noted a century earlier that this wouldn't work. Gold has no inherent value. I think Smith was wrong on the margin, but right on the bigger point. The gold did have value. Kings could use it to raise armies, for example. The Spanish monarchy was always trying to fill its war chest. But, gold didn't fuel a trading cycle. Consumer goods & industrial materials did.
Anyway... my point is that whatever happened in between leaving London ports and returning, they were returning with goods... not gold. They may have been trading gunpowder for slaves, to be sold in the colonies and exchanged for cotton. They may have traded for spices in India. When the ships returned, they returned with goods. Tea & spices were luxury goods, that beneficiaries of the empire could enjoy. This is important, because it balanced consumption with revenue and created a cycle. Tea sippers had money because they owned shares. Revenue flowed to The Company from tea sipper. The Company used that revenue to keep bringing tea (also cotton & indigo for the mills and other luxury goods like spices). The market was secured (to an extent) by rising share values.
When a spanish ship returned with gold, someone had gold, probably the king, probably for war. When a British ship returned, someone paid gold for tea, to The Company, to fund more trade.
- teruakohatu 6y agoThe gold they brought back was also inflationary as soon as the King started spending it (although pretty low inflation compared to what we tolerate today).
- burpsnard 6y agoIIRC the chinese were exporting tea, oranges and porcelain to Europe in exchange for silver. Early/mid 19C, with metal-backed currencies, as most of the circulating Silver had ended up there, it was deemed necessary to reverse that flow. The Opium wars began, to get all the silver back. I think westerners underappreciate the salience of these events in the chinese worldview. And which Colony was established by treaty with the chinese defeat ? Hong Kong. https://www.bl.uk/learning/histcitizen/trading/story/trade/4tradingplaces.html https://www.bl.uk/learning/histcitizen/trading/story/trade/4...
- mytailorisrich 6y agoHongkong, Taiwan, extreme North East and West, Tianjin, Dalian, Shanghai, Xiamen, area bordering Vietnam, probably some more I forget. The period of the opium wars saw China stripped piece by piece and, indeed, that is having consequences to this day.
- magicsmoke 6y agoThe aftermath of WW2 had far bigger consequences. The US was willing to let the Republic of China be the hegemon of East Asia like in the old days in return for an ally against the USSR. But when communist China won the civil war the US began supporting China's old tributaries Japan and Korea against it and kept the RoC alive on Taiwan. That whole interplay between the PRC and the US over the hegemony of East Asia is the crux of most of the issues in that region today.
- mrscottson 6y ago>The aftermath of WW2 had far bigger consequences. I don't agree. >But when communist China won the civil war the US began supporting China's old tributaries Japan and Korea against it and kept the RoC alive on Taiwan. The US supported and funded Japanese expansion since 1905...this choice was made by our opium dealing first family, the Roosevelts, long before WW1 even....
- mytailorisrich 6y ago