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They just announced the vault. Which uses what they call "community points" https://www.reddit.com/vault/ https://www.reddit.com/vault/

by nojito 6y ago

eps 6y ago
Aaaand it forces you to use their bloody app on mobile... Reddit just can't take a hint it seems.
- outime 6y ago
  That's been their priority since it was released and "hints" from users are just ignored as anyone can see if you go to the site with a browser and you have to close the banners reminding you to install the app.
- nojito 6y ago
  What hint? Mobile is growing and Reddit is a business.
  - colejohnson66 6y ago
    The hint that we don’t need an app. What use is served by the app over the website? The only thing I can think of is that you can’t (easily) block ads on an app, but can in a browser (if it lets you). Sure, they’re in the business to make money, but if enough users leave because of the app and ads being shoved in their face, Reddit will start to make less money than they did without the app. It’s not gonna happen anytime soon, but it’ll happen eventually. Reddit won’t last forever, just like Digg and /. didn’t. Sure, they still exist, but (last I heard) their active user numbers keep going down.
  - pgrote 6y ago
    Boy, glad they missed the video is growing train.
  - thinkingemote 6y ago
    Mobile is huge and most people will consume Reddit via mobile. The flaw is that Reddit is also based upon content creation and these people don't use mobile to create or at least not their app.
    - ddingus 6y ago
      I happen to create on mobile, on Reddit all the time. Hate the app. Chrome or Firefox works just fine.
- slightwinder 6y ago
  At this point they should have enough datapoints to know whether their strategy works out. Them continuing indicates that the hints of the loud is just the whistling of a minority.
  - throwaway2048 6y ago
    That makes the assumption that the user is both happy with the "reddit app" even though they are being railroaded into using it and that the interests of reddit and the user are coincident.
    - crocodiletears 6y ago
      No, it just makes the assumption that most users (with value to reddit) will tolerate the practice in order to get to the site's content. Whether or not they're happy with the app or being railroaded is orthogonal.
  - Traster 6y ago
    Or they're just incompetently ploughing through with a strategy that's damaging them.
  - TechBro8615 6y ago
    Their mobile website is so atrociously bad, and the mobile app is not much better. Personally I use the Apollo app; it's 100x better than either, and I know reddit is only tracking me insofar as the API requests Apollo sends to them.
chacha2 6y ago
I have an auto redirector that changes www. to old. It links this URL to this post: https://old.reddit.com/r/IWantToLearn/comments/vault/iwtl_how_to_not_give_a_fuck_about_what_people/ https://old.reddit.com/r/IWantToLearn/comments/vault/iwtl_ho... Very odd.
- CameronNemo 6y ago
  Odd? That post just got randomly assigned the short URL of "vault". These are usually short random alphanumeric ascii. Not so weird to me
  - bzb3 6y ago
    They are not random. They are consecutive numbers in base36.
    - ultrarunner 6y ago
      I recently saw it mentioned that another site's URL ids were consecutive numbers in base 52, and then base 36 here. I was previously only aware of the use of base 64, so my interest was piqued — why choose one over the other? It looks like the reason is that in base 36 information can be encoded in the 26 characters of the alphabet plus 10 numeric characters. In base 52 you can use the same, but case-sensitive and possibly without vowels. This makes it work nicely in URLs. I was going to ask the significance but thought I'd post what I found instead.
    - CameronNemo 6y ago
      Oh so that is what they meant by odd! The base36 number is odd (52574321 in decimal). https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vault+base36+to+decimal&t=ffab&ia=answer https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vault+base36+to+decimal&t=ffab&ia=...
- coronadisaster 6y ago
  I redirect www. to ns. And the same happened to me... That leads me to believe that old. and ns. won't be there for much longer.
dbbk 6y ago
I've read through the FAQ and still have no idea what this is?

They just announced the vault. Which uses what they call "community points" https://www.reddit.com/vault/ https://www.reddit.com/vault/

by nojito 6y ago

They just announced the vault. Which uses what they call "community points" https://www.reddit.com/vault/ https://www.reddit.com/vault/

eps 6y ago

Aaaand it forces you to use their bloody app on mobile... Reddit just can't take a hint it seems.

outime 6y ago
That's been their priority since it was released and "hints" from users are just ignored as anyone can see if you go to the site with a browser and you have to close the banners reminding you to install the app.
nojito 6y ago
What hint? Mobile is growing and Reddit is a business.
- colejohnson66 6y ago
  The hint that we don’t need an app. What use is served by the app over the website? The only thing I can think of is that you can’t (easily) block ads on an app, but can in a browser (if it lets you). Sure, they’re in the business to make money, but if enough users leave because of the app and ads being shoved in their face, Reddit will start to make less money than they did without the app. It’s not gonna happen anytime soon, but it’ll happen eventually. Reddit won’t last forever, just like Digg and /. didn’t. Sure, they still exist, but (last I heard) their active user numbers keep going down.
- pgrote 6y ago
  Boy, glad they missed the video is growing train.
- thinkingemote 6y ago
  Mobile is huge and most people will consume Reddit via mobile. The flaw is that Reddit is also based upon content creation and these people don't use mobile to create or at least not their app.
  - ddingus 6y ago
    I happen to create on mobile, on Reddit all the time. Hate the app. Chrome or Firefox works just fine.
slightwinder 6y ago
At this point they should have enough datapoints to know whether their strategy works out. Them continuing indicates that the hints of the loud is just the whistling of a minority.
- throwaway2048 6y ago
  That makes the assumption that the user is both happy with the "reddit app" even though they are being railroaded into using it and that the interests of reddit and the user are coincident.
  - crocodiletears 6y ago
    No, it just makes the assumption that most users (with value to reddit) will tolerate the practice in order to get to the site's content. Whether or not they're happy with the app or being railroaded is orthogonal.
- Traster 6y ago
  Or they're just incompetently ploughing through with a strategy that's damaging them.
- TechBro8615 6y ago
  Their mobile website is so atrociously bad, and the mobile app is not much better. Personally I use the Apollo app; it's 100x better than either, and I know reddit is only tracking me insofar as the API requests Apollo sends to them.

chacha2 6y ago

I have an auto redirector that changes www. to old. It links this URL to this post: https://old.reddit.com/r/IWantToLearn/comments/vault/iwtl_how_to_not_give_a_fuck_about_what_people/ https://old.reddit.com/r/IWantToLearn/comments/vault/iwtl_ho... Very odd.

CameronNemo 6y ago
Odd? That post just got randomly assigned the short URL of "vault". These are usually short random alphanumeric ascii. Not so weird to me
- bzb3 6y ago
  They are not random. They are consecutive numbers in base36.
  - ultrarunner 6y ago
    I recently saw it mentioned that another site's URL ids were consecutive numbers in base 52, and then base 36 here. I was previously only aware of the use of base 64, so my interest was piqued — why choose one over the other? It looks like the reason is that in base 36 information can be encoded in the 26 characters of the alphabet plus 10 numeric characters. In base 52 you can use the same, but case-sensitive and possibly without vowels. This makes it work nicely in URLs. I was going to ask the significance but thought I'd post what I found instead.
  - CameronNemo 6y ago
    Oh so that is what they meant by odd! The base36 number is odd (52574321 in decimal). https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vault+base36+to+decimal&t=ffab&ia=answer https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vault+base36+to+decimal&t=ffab&ia=...
coronadisaster 6y ago
I redirect www. to ns. And the same happened to me... That leads me to believe that old. and ns. won't be there for much longer.

dbbk 6y ago

I've read through the FAQ and still have no idea what this is?