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> He's been indistinguishable from the average conservative pundit for some time. He's voting for Bernie Sanders, and you think he's a "conservative pundit"?

> He's been indistinguishable from the average conservative pundit for some time. He's voting for Bernie Sanders, and you think he's a "conservative pundit"? I don't think you know what you're talking about.

KirinDave 6y ago
An awful lot of conservative people were moved by certain aspects of Bernie Sanders rhetoric. The notion that Bernie Sanders was a deep leftist is propaganda by the authoritarian right. compared to the majority of politics elsewhere in the world he's a Centrist. many leftists in America viewed him as a compromise candidate, not a representative candidate. This is probably because he's much closer to an anti-capitalist Libertarian position. Thus he cut across many traditional political aisles along a different axis. And if you think for a few minutes I'm positive you can proposed people who are much further "left" of the political spectrum in American politics then Bernie Sanders. AOC comes to mind.
- JSavageOne 6y ago
  AOC wasn't running for president. Bernie Sanders was THE most progressive candidate running for U.S. president in 2020. I mean he identified himself as a socialist.
  - KirinDave 6y ago
    He didn't quite do that, but even if he did that wouldn't matter. He's a slightly left of center in a global sense, anymore than it'd make sense to call Biden "the progressive" candidate.
    - JSavageOne 6y ago
      I'm not disputing you on U.S. politics being conservative on the global scale, just that it's not fair or accurate to call Rogan a "conservative" when he's voting for the most "socialist" candidate on the ballot in his country and endorsing policies like a universal basic income, something considered "leftist" in basically every single country including the Scandinavian countries who have still yet to implement it. Sure overall perhaps he's still a "conservative" on the global scale, but by that definition the entirety of U.S. politics is conservative (including CNN, MSNBC, etc), and that speaks more to the state of politics in the country itself than Joe Rogan.
      - KirinDave 6y ago
        > 'm not disputing you on U.S. politics being conservative on the global scale, just that it's not fair or accurate to call Rogan a "conservative" when he's voting for the most "socialist" candidate on the ballot in his country Fair, but please note I called him a reactionary. I said he profits from the same sources as conservatives. I've said elsewhere in this thread, I think he's a "centrist" which is "conservative" anywhere else. UBI has an interesting status in Libertarian circles, but I'm not going to go any further off topic here.
myvoiceismypass 6y ago
Aaaaaand now he is voting for Trump: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-donald-trump-joe-biden-bernie-sanders https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-do...
- lalos 6y ago
  Saw this a mile away months ago, got downvoted by the Rogan fans. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22144939 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22144939

KirinDave 6y ago

An awful lot of conservative people were moved by certain aspects of Bernie Sanders rhetoric. The notion that Bernie Sanders was a deep leftist is propaganda by the authoritarian right. compared to the majority of politics elsewhere in the world he's a Centrist. many leftists in America viewed him as a compromise candidate, not a representative candidate. This is probably because he's much closer to an anti-capitalist Libertarian position. Thus he cut across many traditional political aisles along a different axis. And if you think for a few minutes I'm positive you can proposed people who are much further "left" of the political spectrum in American politics then Bernie Sanders. AOC comes to mind.

JSavageOne 6y ago
AOC wasn't running for president. Bernie Sanders was THE most progressive candidate running for U.S. president in 2020. I mean he identified himself as a socialist.
- KirinDave 6y ago
  He didn't quite do that, but even if he did that wouldn't matter. He's a slightly left of center in a global sense, anymore than it'd make sense to call Biden "the progressive" candidate.
  - JSavageOne 6y ago
    I'm not disputing you on U.S. politics being conservative on the global scale, just that it's not fair or accurate to call Rogan a "conservative" when he's voting for the most "socialist" candidate on the ballot in his country and endorsing policies like a universal basic income, something considered "leftist" in basically every single country including the Scandinavian countries who have still yet to implement it. Sure overall perhaps he's still a "conservative" on the global scale, but by that definition the entirety of U.S. politics is conservative (including CNN, MSNBC, etc), and that speaks more to the state of politics in the country itself than Joe Rogan.
    - KirinDave 6y ago
      > 'm not disputing you on U.S. politics being conservative on the global scale, just that it's not fair or accurate to call Rogan a "conservative" when he's voting for the most "socialist" candidate on the ballot in his country Fair, but please note I called him a reactionary. I said he profits from the same sources as conservatives. I've said elsewhere in this thread, I think he's a "centrist" which is "conservative" anywhere else. UBI has an interesting status in Libertarian circles, but I'm not going to go any further off topic here.

myvoiceismypass 6y ago

Aaaaaand now he is voting for Trump: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-donald-trump-joe-biden-bernie-sanders https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-do...

lalos 6y ago
Saw this a mile away months ago, got downvoted by the Rogan fans. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22144939 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22144939