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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9puscule_(pamphlet) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9puscule_(pamphlet)

by dnpp123 6y ago

pjc50 6y ago
.. would you care to explain this, yourself, in English of at least a few sentences, s'il vous plait?
- chmike 6y ago
  The only reference to Xavier Niel in this page is that he may have advised and eventually financially helped the french president Macron in his campaign. It is complete none sense that this would support the claim that Xavier Niel is evil.
  - namdnay 6y ago
    In addition it's a pamphlet written by Juan Branco of all people, a nutcase conspiracy theorist who is more interested in self-promotion than any real social justice
- rcMgD2BwE72F 6y ago
  - one of the biggest and earliest support of Emmanuel Macron, helped him become president (offering to do his PR, made him met the right persons -- especially Mimi Marchand, who can make and break celebrities, lawfully or not, helped set up Macron's political party with other billionaires, etc) - control the #1 French newspaper, "Le Monde" (extremely poplar on the Web, too), is buying up other media (Nice-Matin, most recently), is/was also influential in opposition media (e.g Mediapart) - his spouse is the first daughter of Bernard Arnault, the 3rd richest man in the world, and together they form the most powerful couple in the country
- maeln 6y ago
  He his making a reference to a book published some times ago that was accusing a few french oligarch (which include Xavier Niel) to have basically put E. Macron in the Elysée. This book, that was also published around the time of the gilet jaune if I remember, made a lot of polemic, especially since his author is quite controversial and can be very vitriolic. A big issue with the book was that, even though some claim look legitimate and really not surprising for any French people (Macron being helped by a few powerful people was no surprise, he came out of nowhere and had suddenly more press coverage than any other candidate), it was also making a lot of heavy, and sometimes weird, accusation about some people, one of them being X. Niel, with nothing to back them up. It also didn't help that the author was writing in a way that really looked like he was settling some scores with people instead of actually doing a journalistic investigation (he seemed to especially bare some hatred toward X. Niel). It helped even less that he started beef with anyone criticizing his book, especially respected journalist and news outlet.
Narann 6y ago
I read that book and what Juan Branco say is that XN wanted to construct soft power relations with Emmanuel Macron to keep its influence. XN puts himself in a bad political position with Sarkozy. In this book JB explain how rich peoples invest the political side in various ways to keep their benefits high. XN is one of them, specially because he was self-made and have no relations. JB say the problem is not that rich peoples try to keep their influence, it's that noting prevent (and punish) them to do so. It's not about being evil or not, it's about how evil can be part of the game (because political campaign funding).
aspenmayer 6y ago
The guy who wrote this outed his former classmate as gay, among other weird things, like editing his own Wikipedia page with sockpuppets. Not a good look. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Branco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Branco
- Tobu 6y ago
  As far as I understand, that Branco guy has had a lot of short-sighted attempts at getting into high-profile roles, with no consistent thread beyond that. Plus some pointless and spiteful attempts at getting into the limelight for all the wrong reasons, as with the above backstabbing. Our politicians generally turn once in their lives, often rightwards, but this guy is thirty and has already bounced between so many attempts at becoming "important" ASAP, within unrelated and ideologically incompatible currents, abandoning them or being forced out almost immediately. Clearly, he has a lot more ego than resolve, probably needs psychological help, and I hope he won't be another psychopath getting into meaningful power.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9puscule_(pamphlet) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9puscule_(pamphlet)

pjc50 6y ago

.. would you care to explain this, yourself, in English of at least a few sentences, s'il vous plait?

chmike 6y ago
The only reference to Xavier Niel in this page is that he may have advised and eventually financially helped the french president Macron in his campaign. It is complete none sense that this would support the claim that Xavier Niel is evil.
- namdnay 6y ago
  In addition it's a pamphlet written by Juan Branco of all people, a nutcase conspiracy theorist who is more interested in self-promotion than any real social justice
rcMgD2BwE72F 6y ago
- one of the biggest and earliest support of Emmanuel Macron, helped him become president (offering to do his PR, made him met the right persons -- especially Mimi Marchand, who can make and break celebrities, lawfully or not, helped set up Macron's political party with other billionaires, etc) - control the #1 French newspaper, "Le Monde" (extremely poplar on the Web, too), is buying up other media (Nice-Matin, most recently), is/was also influential in opposition media (e.g Mediapart) - his spouse is the first daughter of Bernard Arnault, the 3rd richest man in the world, and together they form the most powerful couple in the country
maeln 6y ago
He his making a reference to a book published some times ago that was accusing a few french oligarch (which include Xavier Niel) to have basically put E. Macron in the Elysée. This book, that was also published around the time of the gilet jaune if I remember, made a lot of polemic, especially since his author is quite controversial and can be very vitriolic. A big issue with the book was that, even though some claim look legitimate and really not surprising for any French people (Macron being helped by a few powerful people was no surprise, he came out of nowhere and had suddenly more press coverage than any other candidate), it was also making a lot of heavy, and sometimes weird, accusation about some people, one of them being X. Niel, with nothing to back them up. It also didn't help that the author was writing in a way that really looked like he was settling some scores with people instead of actually doing a journalistic investigation (he seemed to especially bare some hatred toward X. Niel). It helped even less that he started beef with anyone criticizing his book, especially respected journalist and news outlet.

Narann 6y ago

I read that book and what Juan Branco say is that XN wanted to construct soft power relations with Emmanuel Macron to keep its influence. XN puts himself in a bad political position with Sarkozy. In this book JB explain how rich peoples invest the political side in various ways to keep their benefits high. XN is one of them, specially because he was self-made and have no relations. JB say the problem is not that rich peoples try to keep their influence, it's that noting prevent (and punish) them to do so. It's not about being evil or not, it's about how evil can be part of the game (because political campaign funding).

aspenmayer 6y ago

The guy who wrote this outed his former classmate as gay, among other weird things, like editing his own Wikipedia page with sockpuppets. Not a good look. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Branco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Branco

Tobu 6y ago
As far as I understand, that Branco guy has had a lot of short-sighted attempts at getting into high-profile roles, with no consistent thread beyond that. Plus some pointless and spiteful attempts at getting into the limelight for all the wrong reasons, as with the above backstabbing. Our politicians generally turn once in their lives, often rightwards, but this guy is thirty and has already bounced between so many attempts at becoming "important" ASAP, within unrelated and ideologically incompatible currents, abandoning them or being forced out almost immediately. Clearly, he has a lot more ego than resolve, probably needs psychological help, and I hope he won't be another psychopath getting into meaningful power.