So what is the endgame again? Is it eradication? That seems completely non-feasible without truly draconian measures. If it's not eradication, if it's just "fla

So what is the endgame again? Is it eradication? That seems completely non-feasible without truly draconian measures. If it's not eradication, if it's just "flattening the curve," that's already happened in most of the world: https://battlepenguin.com/politics/this-is-not-a-time-of-honor/#the-goalposts-keep-moving https://battlepenguin.com/politics/this-is-not-a-time-of-hon... Oncologists are talking about how they haven't seen new patients for two months or more. Even with clinics open, people are afraid to come in. Time is critical in some cancers. How many people will die because they've progressed to stage 2 cancers without diagnosis? How many people have already died from heart conditions because they were afraid to go to hospital. What happens when the 2nd order effects hit half of that 100,000 number? This thing is most likely going to be a part of our environment and ecosystem. People are going to continue to die until this burns out, and that might happen before Gavi/Gates/whoever gets their vaccine through clinical trials. So far, people have mostly been doing what has been asked, not by force. But we've been fed so much conflicting information, we are so scared and risk adverse, and our governments seek so many more powers in order to protect us, and so many people have lost their jobs, savings, businesses and livings, that there is justification for peoples' concerns. When it comes to civil liberties, we're talking about basic rights. We're talking about the question: Who owns you? Liberty isn't some hobby or thought experiment. Liberty is most precious in times like these, when people frame claiming one's liberty as selfishness and a threat to order.