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Honest question, but why would I want to see more than 9 people in a video conference? My vision of video conference is that one person is sharing their screen

Honest question, but why would I want to see more than 9 people in a video conference? My vision of video conference is that one person is sharing their screen or something, why would I want to watch other peoples avatars or rooms in all kinds of video quality

goatinaboat 6y ago
Honest question, but why would I want to see more than 9 people in a video conference? Because it more closely mimics the experience of being in a room. For example maybe I want to listen to, or be, the person speaking while gauging reactions from facial expressions. I have a 30" 4k monitor, I can easily have 20-30 faces on screen at once in software that supports it. If you read the MS forums there are plenty of complaints about this, a typical use case is a teacher or lecturer who wants to see their entire class. I am totally OK with the number of faces on screen at once being a user-configurable parameter in the client - but 9 is a hard limit baked into Teams.
- saalweachter 6y ago
  Huh, can you assign seating on Zoom? Say, "this is how I want the grid to be arranged", and maintain that arrangement over many meetings, with absent people blank and not repacked?
  - ChrisMarshallNY 6y ago
    That is my single biggest complaint about Zoom. Also, if you are a host/co-host, the order of the "Participants" list keeps shifting. I end up accidentally muting/unmuting people, because their position changed between my moving the cursor over their name, and clicking.
    - t-writescode 6y ago
      You could make a feature request! For a service that's probably being marketed a lot at schools, that sounds like a perfect feature for the classroom and you could use it, as well :)
ChrisMarshallNY 6y ago
If you are a trainer, then having immediate access to all the attendees is fairly important. I'm in the process of "refactoring" my training approach to a videoconference approach (using Zoom). I'm actually really surprised at how intimidating the process has been. I've been doing training and speaking in person for a long time, but not via Zoom. It will work out, but the biggest issue that I'm encountering, is not having access to "immediate feedback." A very good article on the topic was written by a well-known (and extremely effective) trainer, Erica Sadun, here: https://ericasadun.com/2020/03/11/so-youre-going-to-teach-remotely/ https://ericasadun.com/2020/03/11/so-youre-going-to-teach-re...
- Beldin 6y ago
  Virtually all my teaching is online, in a dedicated tool. Of course I used slides and approach to teaching that i inherited from previous teachers of the course - which includes heavy use of polling using the builtin easy polling feature of our online class tool (collaborate ultra). Once i taught a guest lecture in zoom. I ended up using directpoll.com to approach the polling features I'd normally use. Lots of yes/no questions, easily asked and answered (always same url, can watch answers coming in), some exercises. Extremely positive response. Simple, oft-used interaction truly is a game changer - even if limited to yes/no.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 6y ago
    Beldin -Garath's brother?

goatinaboat 6y ago

Honest question, but why would I want to see more than 9 people in a video conference? Because it more closely mimics the experience of being in a room. For example maybe I want to listen to, or be, the person speaking while gauging reactions from facial expressions. I have a 30" 4k monitor, I can easily have 20-30 faces on screen at once in software that supports it. If you read the MS forums there are plenty of complaints about this, a typical use case is a teacher or lecturer who wants to see their entire class. I am totally OK with the number of faces on screen at once being a user-configurable parameter in the client - but 9 is a hard limit baked into Teams.

saalweachter 6y ago
Huh, can you assign seating on Zoom? Say, "this is how I want the grid to be arranged", and maintain that arrangement over many meetings, with absent people blank and not repacked?
- ChrisMarshallNY 6y ago
  That is my single biggest complaint about Zoom. Also, if you are a host/co-host, the order of the "Participants" list keeps shifting. I end up accidentally muting/unmuting people, because their position changed between my moving the cursor over their name, and clicking.
  - t-writescode 6y ago
    You could make a feature request! For a service that's probably being marketed a lot at schools, that sounds like a perfect feature for the classroom and you could use it, as well :)

ChrisMarshallNY 6y ago

If you are a trainer, then having immediate access to all the attendees is fairly important. I'm in the process of "refactoring" my training approach to a videoconference approach (using Zoom). I'm actually really surprised at how intimidating the process has been. I've been doing training and speaking in person for a long time, but not via Zoom. It will work out, but the biggest issue that I'm encountering, is not having access to "immediate feedback." A very good article on the topic was written by a well-known (and extremely effective) trainer, Erica Sadun, here: https://ericasadun.com/2020/03/11/so-youre-going-to-teach-remotely/ https://ericasadun.com/2020/03/11/so-youre-going-to-teach-re...

Beldin 6y ago
Virtually all my teaching is online, in a dedicated tool. Of course I used slides and approach to teaching that i inherited from previous teachers of the course - which includes heavy use of polling using the builtin easy polling feature of our online class tool (collaborate ultra). Once i taught a guest lecture in zoom. I ended up using directpoll.com to approach the polling features I'd normally use. Lots of yes/no questions, easily asked and answered (always same url, can watch answers coming in), some exercises. Extremely positive response. Simple, oft-used interaction truly is a game changer - even if limited to yes/no.
- ChrisMarshallNY 6y ago
  Beldin -Garath's brother?