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I'm in the midwest. It would be a long list if I tried to name all the companies who (pre-covid) were not hiring remote. I haven't forgotten their names and h

I'm in the midwest. It would be a long list if I tried to name all the companies who (pre-covid) were not hiring remote. I haven't forgotten their names and hope others won't either. They all had the resources and know how, but the folks in control of these companies are all about power. My personal opinion is those companies should not end up in powerful positions in the market after this just because they were forced to do what they should've done in the first place.

HenryBemis 6y ago
Same in London. Majority ofcompanies didn't go past 1 day per week and only if "exceptional circumstances" (e.g. a strike/major incident on the railways - meaning you already spent 2-3 trying to get in) and while the managers/directors were working 2-3 days per week from the office (mostly to take a 3h lunch break with their mates and return at 3pm pissed-drunk). I never chased those contracts because life > work, and London commute is a royal pain in the ass. > should not end in powerful position I believe they will JUST because of that reason. They will be forced to adapt, drastically increase the WFH, and staff will unleash their productivity and companies will benefit from that. It may take a while since staff may be a bit undisciplined/disorganized in the beginning but eventually they will be super productive. And bad managers will try to take the glory and set up daily zoom calls just to ascertain dominance to their packs.
- hackissimo123 6y ago
  At my wife's last job (this was also in London) her manager didn't let anyone work from home - but then frequently worked from home herself. When my wife asked her why it was okay for her to work from home when she didn't let anyone else do it, her reply was "because I'm the manager".
  - ponker 6y ago
    I expect this was not a high functioning company.
gwright 6y ago
I don't understand the need to insist on the righteousness of your particular opinion with regard to remote work. To conclude that an organization that doesn't meet your expectations about remote work as you is "all about power" seems to me to be a huge leap.
- unexaminedlife 6y ago
  I would disagree. I think it's definitely a power move when what you decide to do is (a) more expensive (b) unnecessary (c) less efficient. By ignoring an entire planet worth of qualified (probably highly qualified) people when you don't have to you're doing no favors to your shareholders.
  - gwright 6y ago
    Where do you get so much self righteousness to conclude that your assessment is appropriate for all companies, all positions, everywhere? And why does there have to even be a single "formula" for work in any case? I find that attitude extremely narrow minded. At the same time I fully support your freedom to seek out the opportunities that work for you. I just don't understand the attitude that other people must be on power trips if they don't think they way you do in this regard.
    - Apocryphon 6y ago
      He or she must be saying something right, if all of these tech megacorps are starting to embrace remote work, potentially sparking a sea change that will sweep Silicon Valley.
      - gwright 6y ago
        This is just sloppy logical thinking. Even assuming your statement that "all...megacorps are staring to embrace", it is not reasonable to then conclude that any alternate opinion about remote work at all is wrong thinking. By what logic can you assume the special case of some types of positions in Silicon Valley "megacorps" is generally applicable to all other jobs?
dehrmann 6y ago
This just shows that a lot of company can get work done remotely if they have to. The jury's still out on remote work beyond that. How effective are people on individual projects? Collaborative projects? Long-term planning? How's satisfaction with work?

HenryBemis 6y ago

Same in London. Majority ofcompanies didn't go past 1 day per week and only if "exceptional circumstances" (e.g. a strike/major incident on the railways - meaning you already spent 2-3 trying to get in) and while the managers/directors were working 2-3 days per week from the office (mostly to take a 3h lunch break with their mates and return at 3pm pissed-drunk). I never chased those contracts because life > work, and London commute is a royal pain in the ass. > should not end in powerful position I believe they will JUST because of that reason. They will be forced to adapt, drastically increase the WFH, and staff will unleash their productivity and companies will benefit from that. It may take a while since staff may be a bit undisciplined/disorganized in the beginning but eventually they will be super productive. And bad managers will try to take the glory and set up daily zoom calls just to ascertain dominance to their packs.

hackissimo123 6y ago
At my wife's last job (this was also in London) her manager didn't let anyone work from home - but then frequently worked from home herself. When my wife asked her why it was okay for her to work from home when she didn't let anyone else do it, her reply was "because I'm the manager".
- ponker 6y ago
  I expect this was not a high functioning company.

gwright 6y ago

I don't understand the need to insist on the righteousness of your particular opinion with regard to remote work. To conclude that an organization that doesn't meet your expectations about remote work as you is "all about power" seems to me to be a huge leap.

unexaminedlife 6y ago
I would disagree. I think it's definitely a power move when what you decide to do is (a) more expensive (b) unnecessary (c) less efficient. By ignoring an entire planet worth of qualified (probably highly qualified) people when you don't have to you're doing no favors to your shareholders.
- gwright 6y ago
  Where do you get so much self righteousness to conclude that your assessment is appropriate for all companies, all positions, everywhere? And why does there have to even be a single "formula" for work in any case? I find that attitude extremely narrow minded. At the same time I fully support your freedom to seek out the opportunities that work for you. I just don't understand the attitude that other people must be on power trips if they don't think they way you do in this regard.
  - Apocryphon 6y ago
    He or she must be saying something right, if all of these tech megacorps are starting to embrace remote work, potentially sparking a sea change that will sweep Silicon Valley.
    - gwright 6y ago
      This is just sloppy logical thinking. Even assuming your statement that "all...megacorps are staring to embrace", it is not reasonable to then conclude that any alternate opinion about remote work at all is wrong thinking. By what logic can you assume the special case of some types of positions in Silicon Valley "megacorps" is generally applicable to all other jobs?

dehrmann 6y ago

This just shows that a lot of company can get work done remotely if they have to. The jury's still out on remote work beyond that. How effective are people on individual projects? Collaborative projects? Long-term planning? How's satisfaction with work?